It wasn’t either, was pretty bizzare, ref didn’t see much of an issue, commentary all agreed it was a fair shot but all came to the conclusion he got a card because of a accumulation of incidents which only works when the final one is actually a foul.

Is Chan injured or can he just not get in the Hull team?

I'm not 100% currently but he's been fit and has been left out previously. That rings a few alarm bells in a side playing as poorly as Hull FC.

I doubt that’s true as we played without a hooker rather than giving him a go.

Not for me, Ellis is getting better and better and growing into the 13 role.

On the outside looking in, he’s just not big enough imo, he’s an impact forward who doesn’t have a massive amount of impact, he runs in hard but lacks the size to make the desired impact and he doesn’t seem to have the fitness and workrate of someone like Isa that can outweigh his lack of size and dig.