Quote ="NickyKiss"Seems fair enough. I’ve always fancied a top league of ten, with teams playing each other 3 times but that’s not going to happen, so to get rid of the make believe loop fixtures, I wouldn’t be against going to 14 teams for 2021. It’s who those teams would be that you love to fall in to place. I think to see Toulouse in the top league would be great and it would allow them to build a rivalry with Catalans. A strong Bradford would also be amazing for the game. This sport Isn’t big enough to have a big City side, capable of pulling in 15,000+ crowds sat in it’s second ">tier.'" You would have to be a miracle worker to get 15000 and upwards attending at Dewsbury (the capacity is less than half of that) which is where Bradford now play. The Bradford of 1997-2005 is not the Bradford of 2020. As things stand presently they are a mid table Championship club and may well be that for a while. They need to be given time to recover and build steadily, not be rushed back too hastily because of what once was. Their troubles over recent seasons all happened despite the success they had and those big crowds. The financial problems that brought down Bradford had its roots during their glory days. Though not clubs with a history of recent success (i.e during the last 25 years) or such large crowds in that period clubs like Leigh, Featherstone and London (despite their low support) should be ahead of Bradford at this time. I agree about Toulouse.

Quote ="NickyKiss"Seems fair enough. I’ve always fancied a top league of ten, with teams playing each other 3 times but that’s not going to happen, so to get rid of the make believe loop fixtures, I wouldn’t be against going to 14 teams for 2021. It’s who those teams would be that you love to fall in to place. I think to see Toulouse in the top league would be great and it would allow them to build a rivalry with Catalans. A strong Bradford would also be amazing for the game. This sport Isn’t big enough to have a big City side, capable of pulling in 15,000+ crowds sat in it’s second ">tier.'" You would have to be a miracle worker to get 15000 and upwards attending at Dewsbury (the capacity is less than half of that) which is where Bradford now play. The Bradford of 1997-2005 is not the Bradford of 2020. As things stand presently they are a mid table Championship club and may well be that for a while. They need to be given time to recover and build steadily, not be rushed back too hastily because of what once was. Their troubles over recent seasons all happened despite the success they had and those big crowds. The financial problems that brought down Bradford had its roots during their glory days. Though not clubs with a history of recent success (i.e during the last 25 years) or such large crowds in that period clubs like Leigh, Featherstone and London (despite their low support) should be ahead of Bradford at this time. I agree about Toulouse.

That's not what you said though is it?

You said "So Toronto are not to be relegated simply because they are not up to Super League standard?

I bet some of our own clubs wish the same could apply to them!"



Toronto arent not being relegated because they are not up to SL standard.

None of the teams are not being relegated because they arent up to SL standard.



If it does come about that relegation is scrapped then "All clubs will be exempt from relegation" including Wigan.

Quote ="Jukesays"That's not what you said though is it? You said "So Toronto are not to be relegated simply because they are not up to Super League standard? I bet some of our own clubs wish the same could apply to them!" Toronto arent not being relegated because they are not up to SL standard. None of the teams are not being relegated because they arent up to SL standard. If it does come about that relegation is scrapped then "All clubs will be exempt from relegation" including ">Wigan.'" "I bet some of our own clubs wish the same could apply to them" But, they are not own by a multi millionaire who apart from signing a 'over the hill' Sonny Bill Williamson, has done little or nothing to improve the quality and standard of his squad as proved by results and position so far in the league prior to the season ending early. But why should he, if he is given a guarantee of the club not being relegated. And what's right about a club playing games in batches of home and away games instead of the normal way of playing games. We Wigan supporters moan about playing around six weeks away while work is carried out on the pitch at "Whelan's Folly"

Quote ="Jukesays"That's not what you said though is it? You said "So Toronto are not to be relegated simply because they are not up to Super League standard? I bet some of our own clubs wish the same could apply to them!" Toronto arent not being relegated because they are not up to SL standard. None of the teams are not being relegated because they arent up to SL standard. If it does come about that relegation is scrapped then "All clubs will be exempt from relegation" including ">Wigan.'" "I bet some of our own clubs wish the same could apply to them" But, they are not own by a multi millionaire who apart from signing a 'over the hill' Sonny Bill Williamson, has done little or nothing to improve the quality and standard of his squad as proved by results and position so far in the league prior to the season ending early. But why should he, if he is given a guarantee of the club not being relegated. And what's right about a club playing games in batches of home and away games instead of the normal way of playing games. We Wigan supporters moan about playing around six weeks away while work is carried out on the pitch at "Whelan's Folly"

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