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The fact that this current saints team has made the grand final makes me cry for the state of our game
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Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"How is this a shock? Have you never been to a game at Headingly? He just said what we all know...
I still disagree that the Bosc event was a try, on any other day it's a knock on and no one blinks an eyelid... The Makinson thing was in touch though.but, equally there were at least 2 forward passes in the build up to that, (iirc) so it's swings and round abouts - not that 2 wrongs make a right, just the ref was pretty awful for both teams...'"
I was only shocked at the way it was put. />
Basically, he stated that if Catalans had brought a bigger crowd, they would probably have had a try referred that otherwise gets chalked off without consideration. />
I think we all suspected that the crowd had *some* effect on referees, but for one to come out and put it so bluntly was was pretty shocking.
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Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"How is this a shock? Have you never been to a game at Headingly? He just said what we all know...
I still disagree that the Bosc event was a try, on any other day it's a knock on and no one blinks an eyelid... The Makinson thing was in touch though.but, equally there were at least 2 forward passes in the build up to that, (iirc) so it's swings and round abouts - not that 2 wrongs make a right, just the ref was pretty awful for both teams...'"
I was only shocked at the way it was put. />
Basically, he stated that if Catalans had brought a bigger crowd, they would probably have had a try referred that otherwise gets chalked off without consideration. />
I think we all suspected that the crowd had *some* effect on referees, but for one to come out and put it so bluntly was was pretty shocking.
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Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"This is one of the most bitter threads I've ever seen. [uI'm cringing[/u.'"
Is that because of silverwood's performance  www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_redface.gif" alt=" icon_surprised.gifops:" title="Embarassed" />
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Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"This is one of the most bitter threads I've ever seen. [uI'm cringing[/u.'"
Is that because of silverwood's performance www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_redface.gif" alt=" icon_surprised.gifops:" title="Embarassed" />
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Quote ="Pie Eyed"I was only shocked at the way it was put. />
Basically, he stated that if Catalans had brought a bigger crowd, they would probably have had a try referred that otherwise gets chalked off without consideration. />
I think we all suspected that the crowd had *some* effect on referees, but for one to come out and put it so bluntly was was pretty shocking.'" />
It was an admission that crowds influence games. Yes we all knew it, but should be one of those things that's never really admitted.
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Quote ="Pie Eyed"I was only shocked at the way it was put. />
Basically, he stated that if Catalans had brought a bigger crowd, they would probably have had a try referred that otherwise gets chalked off without consideration. />
I think we all suspected that the crowd had *some* effect on referees, but for one to come out and put it so bluntly was was pretty shocking.'" />
It was an admission that crowds influence games. Yes we all knew it, but should be one of those things that's never really admitted.
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Didn't have many issues with the reffing last night. It wasn't great but it rarely is and Saints would have won even with a ref dead set against them because Catalans were shattered. />
Fair play to Saints. They finished top and whilst I don't think they're a great side they've given themselves a shot at a GF. In a final funny things happen and they have every chance of causing an upset next week regardless of who they play. |
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Didn't have many issues with the reffing last night. It wasn't great but it rarely is and Saints would have won even with a ref dead set against them because Catalans were shattered. />
Fair play to Saints. They finished top and whilst I don't think they're a great side they've given themselves a shot at a GF. In a final funny things happen and they have every chance of causing an upset next week regardless of who they play. | |
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Quote ="Pie Eyed"It didn't affect the overall outcome (I don't think), but I had to turn it off at half-time. />
The 2 biggest errors in the first half that may have affected the outcome though were glaring. />
1. Saints carrying the ball out being missed. OK - MAYBE the Touch-Judge could have missed that, but it was fairly obvious. />
2. The Catalans try that should have been referred to the VR and WOULD have been given if it had been. />
However, my single biggest problem was with something that Cummings said about the aforementioned try:
"That's where the crowd comes in to play" (possibly not verbatim, but that was the basics).
Basically, he admitted that a strong away following would have seen the Cats try on the replay and caused an uproar, possibly causing the ref to refer it to the VR (which has happened before, this season).
How the hell can an ex senior official admit that the crowd can have such a large bearing on the outcome of the game?
He basically admitted that teams with smaller away followings are more likely to get screwed over, due to the referees being far more affected by the crowd than I had ever thought they would be.'" />
The catalans try that should have been refered to the video ref, I have issue with. />
Sky used that all night to justify and poor ref calls in catalans favour.
The ref blew up. There is no way it could go to the video ref. I've got it on in front of me now. It hits the Catalan player who tips it on, now every day of the week were there is no video ref and it's called a knock on. You watch it on slow mo and it tips the wrist and is a line ball at best. But basically the catalan player does not gather the ball in. He sticks out a hand and the ball knocks his wrist. />
I'm not going to say it was a knock on 100%, but neither can I say it's a 100% knock back. Certainly in the split second the ref looks at it, it's a call he has to make. He blows up and that's it. Then the ball is put down. />
The camera from infront looks like it went back, the one from the side looks like it's level to forward. />
It was by no means 100% a try, but they get it back from the blatant forward in about 3 minutes. />
It was a poor set of officials, but it was all game, high shots and laying on too. I know high shots and lying on are not as eye catching but they still effect the game.
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Quote ="Pie Eyed"It didn't affect the overall outcome (I don't think), but I had to turn it off at half-time. />
The 2 biggest errors in the first half that may have affected the outcome though were glaring. />
1. Saints carrying the ball out being missed. OK - MAYBE the Touch-Judge could have missed that, but it was fairly obvious. />
2. The Catalans try that should have been referred to the VR and WOULD have been given if it had been. />
However, my single biggest problem was with something that Cummings said about the aforementioned try:
"That's where the crowd comes in to play" (possibly not verbatim, but that was the basics).
Basically, he admitted that a strong away following would have seen the Cats try on the replay and caused an uproar, possibly causing the ref to refer it to the VR (which has happened before, this season).
How the hell can an ex senior official admit that the crowd can have such a large bearing on the outcome of the game?
He basically admitted that teams with smaller away followings are more likely to get screwed over, due to the referees being far more affected by the crowd than I had ever thought they would be.'" />
The catalans try that should have been refered to the video ref, I have issue with. />
Sky used that all night to justify and poor ref calls in catalans favour.
The ref blew up. There is no way it could go to the video ref. I've got it on in front of me now. It hits the Catalan player who tips it on, now every day of the week were there is no video ref and it's called a knock on. You watch it on slow mo and it tips the wrist and is a line ball at best. But basically the catalan player does not gather the ball in. He sticks out a hand and the ball knocks his wrist. />
I'm not going to say it was a knock on 100%, but neither can I say it's a 100% knock back. Certainly in the split second the ref looks at it, it's a call he has to make. He blows up and that's it. Then the ball is put down. />
The camera from infront looks like it went back, the one from the side looks like it's level to forward. />
It was by no means 100% a try, but they get it back from the blatant forward in about 3 minutes. />
It was a poor set of officials, but it was all game, high shots and laying on too. I know high shots and lying on are not as eye catching but they still effect the game.
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