The Ball was in play when Mozz And Carvell made them hits.

When Tomkins hit Myler, the ball was dead as he had already scored

Don't really know that much about American Football! I was referring then to players being "blocked" rather than "tackled" without the ball. Call it what you will, Carvell "came into contact" with Sam who didn't have the ball.

What annoyed me was the cumulative nature of these Warrington high tackles/late challenges ( 5-6, I think) in the 1st 20 minutes. Silverwood should have sinbinned a Warrington player when it got to so many. Didn't he sinbin Joel against Huddersfield (away)for repeated team offences - although that was for holding down, I think.

Would that be Morley's record of citings? I'm sure that out of about 20 or so citings it has been found to be "no charge" in about 17 incidents. I'd say that certain referees penalise and cite him on reputation (which seems to be the same with opposition fans).

Interesting one of the two times Morley has been found guilty was for a late flop - he got off with a fine. I assume that this board would agree with that sanction for such an offence?

Would that be Morley's record of citings? I'm sure that out of about 20 or so citings it has been found to be "no charge" in about 17 incidents. I'd say that certain referees penalise and cite him on reputation (which seems to be the same with opposition fans).



Or maybe refs did see some bad challenge/high shot/malicious intent, but the RFL decided to show leniency towards him as - they have done in the past year or two, together with the likes of Jamie Peacock. ( GB glory boys - both coached by Tony Smith)

Yesterday someone quoted Ben Westwood's harsh ban (5 games) last year. I agree with that and don't regard Benny as a "dirty" player.

Unfortunately, I don't think the same of Morley and never have done. My first memory of him is when as an 18 year-old he almost took Sean Edwards's head off when Wigan were hammering Leeds in the 94/5 season. Then the appalling head high challenge in the first 10 seconds of the test v Australia when Ganson sent him off. Unfortunately, mud sticks, but I don't believe he has been totally innocent these past 2 seasons despite escaping a ban! I'd love to know how much the Wire fans were calling him 10 years ago when he was presumably dishing it out to Warrington players while playing for Leeds - just as you ( rightly) laid in to Mathers 2 years ago for that horrendous challenge. Now you all seem to love Mathers....!

refs dont cite do they, thought the RFL did after eviewing the game.

you can take a man out as long as you dont put your hand on him and use the shoulder in the NFL, as when you use the hand it becomes pass interference. You can only use your hands to block to push not to grab in the line of srimmage.