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| This is good news. It am pleased that they are bringing this game to London.
I know it is Skolars territory but here is a thought. Why do London Broncos not get themselves into gear and seek to promote themselves at this event. Many people from London may attend and enjoy the game. They most likely are not aware that RL has a team in London and that they could see more of the sport there, if they so desired.
Well there is plenty of time to set a plan in place and implement it. I am sure Rimmer & Co would get behind it and the club could do themselves a power of good. Let us see what gets done.
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| Quote Hockley Bronco="Hockley Bronco"Didn't we win in 1990? I know I saw us win a game there. And lose one but can't remember which year!'"
We haven't won an Ashes series in England since 1959. In 1990 we won the first at Wembley then lost at Old Trafford and Elland Road. Last win was in Aus in 1970 when we lost the first in Brisbane and won the next 2 played at the Sydney Cricket Ground. I saw both series wins.
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| Quote Bostwick="Bostwick"This is good news. It am pleased that they are bringing this game to London.
I know it is Skolars territory but here is a thought. Why do London Broncos not get themselves into gear and seek to promote themselves at this event. Many people from London may attend and enjoy the game. They most likely are not aware that RL has a team in London and that they could see more of the sport there, if they so desired.
Well there is plenty of time to set a plan in place and implement it. I am sure Rimmer & Co would get behind it and the club could do themselves a power of good. Let us see what gets done.'"
That's a good idea, but based on past form I'm sure it won't happen!
Hadn't considered the 'Skolars turf' thing - Wembley is closer to us, you can see the arch from Trailfinders.
I wish the RFL would pick a permanent London base for internationals. Apart from Wembley it looked like the Olympic Stadium was going to be it with matches against Aus and NZ - and nothing since.
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| I'm not convinced the Tour should be against England, we lose good talent this way, should it not be Great Britain? It's a big stadium, just hope if we are not 2 - 0 up in the series by then, that we are at least 1 - 1 to get a reasonable crowd.
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| Quote jaybs="jaybs"I'm not convinced the Tour should be against England, we lose good talent this way, should it not be Great Britain? It's a big stadium, just hope if we are not 2 - 0 up in the series by then, that we are at least 1 - 1 to get a reasonable crowd.'"
Who do we lose by playing as England and not GB? The whole squad is English, except Coote who clearly isn't good enough. Philbin played for Ireland in 2017, but then switched to England Knights last year.
Besides, GB is dead. Just a matter of time.
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| Quote jaybs="jaybs"I'm not convinced the Tour should be against England, we lose good talent this way, should it not be Great Britain? It's a big stadium, just hope if we are not 2 - 0 up in the series by then, that we are at least 1 - 1 to get a reasonable crowd.'"
Hopefully 25-30,000 tickets will sell in advance.
From a commercial point of view the series at 1-1 will be the best case scenario for a full house.
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| Cant see the problem with it going to spurs, it's a brand new stadium and state of the art. Personally I thought the Olympic stadium was a poor venue in location and venue layout.
Wembley is fine but it's probably driven by cost as much as anything. What sort of interest they can generate will be a reasonable indicator of the state of the game! With CC and GF numbers down another big event that requires travel for the core supporters of the game might effect total ticket sales.
As for the turf suffering, RL tends to do less damage to the grass than football
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| Which ever way you look at it, playing game 1 in 28,000 stadium then game 2 in a 38,000 stadium before heading to a 62,000 stadium for game 3 when series could be over is just plan daft.
Without knowing costs or availability are we saying northern crowds can't/won't fill Old Trafford, Anfield etc.
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| Quote northernbloke="northernbloke"Cant see the problem with it going to spurs, it's a brand new stadium and state of the art. Personally I thought the Olympic stadium was a poor venue in location and venue layout.
Wembley is fine but it's probably driven by cost as much as anything. What sort of interest they can generate will be a reasonable indicator of the state of the game! With CC and GF numbers down another big event that requires travel for the core supporters of the game might effect total ticket sales.
As for the turf suffering, RL tends to do less damage to the grass than football'"
My point was why don’t the RFL choose a stadium in London as it’s ‘base’ and stick with it? So visiting fans get used to it, can meet up in the same pubs, cafes etc...
And as far as London grounds go White Hart Lane is a bit of a pig to get to.
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| Tottenham is not the nicest part of London either. No matter how grand the stadium is.
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| By that logic the internationals should always be played in the same stadiums.
Why not try somewhere new? The logic of fans getting used to it and going to the same pubs not really an issue when it's only one game every couple of years.
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| As for which stadiums up north, thank goodness they are not using Anfield again, footy fans might like it but strewth it's a poor venue.
Not been to elland road in a while so not sure what it's like.
Look on the other side, had they brought it to a stadium in london with a 40k capacity we would have been whinging about lack of ambition.
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| Quote northernbloke="northernbloke"As for which stadiums up north, thank goodness they are not using Anfield again, footy fans might like it but strewth it's a poor venue.
Not been to elland road in a while so not sure what it's like.
Look on the other side, had they brought it to a stadium in london with a 40k capacity we would have been whinging about lack of ambition.'"
Doubt it NB, not sure I can remember a time when RL has shown any ambition.
Of course there is nothing wrong in trying other venues but Spuds really? Perhaps they got a good deal as Levy desperate to get money in. But it is a bit grim on the old Tottenham High Road.
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| It's a bit grim around wembley so not sure what the difference is! Maybe the new shops round wembley and Westfield near Olympic stadium make them more inviting for families and couples on game day, but if folk who come down stay overnight I suspect very few stay close to whatever stadium. So it's down to the facilities at the stadium itself that's important, and no doubt the deal they have got.
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| Has anyone been to the stadium? If so what's the thoughts on it?
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| Know a few Broncos fans are Spurs supporters. They would know what it is like.
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| Quote northernbloke="northernbloke"Cant see the problem with it going to spurs, it's a brand new stadium and state of the art. Personally I thought the Olympic stadium was a poor venue in location and venue layout.
Wembley is fine but it's probably driven by cost as much as anything. What sort of interest they can generate will be a reasonable indicator of the state of the game! With CC and GF numbers down another big event that requires travel for the core supporters of the game might effect total ticket sales.
As for the turf suffering, RL tends to do less damage to the grass than football'"
Not a problem with the pitch. Spurs have 2 pitches, a grass pitch for football and an artificial pitch for NFL. Guess the will use the artificial pitch for the RL game.
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| So football there, NFL has been played there, maybe it should be the london home for rugby league
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| Quote Bostwick="Bostwick"Many people from London may attend and enjoy the game. They most likely are not aware that RL has a team in London and that they could see more of the sport there, if they so desired.'"
Short memory here......London broncos are back.
Gus spent thousands on an ad in the England v NZ programme in November 2013. 67,500 fans there that day which resulted in now fan-base growth......pointless name change followed by a pointless ground move, followed by relegation, followed by another move.....the only thing worse than no marketing is BAD marketing.
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| I would not bother advertising in the program. Instead I would go for a presence outside the stadium, from which you could promote the club. There are many ways you could do that.
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| Quote AXE2GRIND="AXE2GRIND"Short memory here......London broncos are back.
Gus spent thousands on an ad in the England v NZ programme in November 2013. 67,500 fans there that day which resulted in now fan-base growth......pointless name change followed by a pointless ground move, followed by relegation, followed by another move.....the only thing worse than no marketing is BAD marketing.'"
It was on the big screen. I'm not sure we paid for it
Moving from The Stoop was a money saving scheme and naturally the name needed to change from Quins
Relegation again was DH cutting costs- that team got threw together too late it was good enough to stay up.
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| The move from the stoop was a lot more than just money saving. Reality is the tie in of the 2 clubs never worked.
As for the marketing efforts and choices made that's an eternal discussion that's gone on and will go on for ever on here, what's good what's bad what's affordable!
Again it's nothing that we can do much about, it's up to the club.
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| Quote northernbloke="northernbloke"The move from the stoop was a lot more than just money saving. Reality is the tie in of the 2 clubs never worked.
As for the marketing efforts and choices made that's an eternal discussion that's gone on and will go on for ever on here, what's good what's bad what's affordable!
Again it's nothing that we can do much about, it's up to the club.'"
Thought things were going ok until Bloodgate & the subsequent departure of the Quins Chairman & CEO. Then once Leneghan ran off to Wigan it was Blockhead v Hardhead.
Attended a Quins Debenture event in the City sometime later that year & was chatting to the RU marketing team. They claimed the RU side were quite happy (well they got a good deal out of us) but the RL side were becoming increasingly difficult to deal with. The rest is history.
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| Quote northernbloke="northernbloke"The move from the stoop was a lot more than just money saving. Reality is the tie in of the 2 clubs never worked. '"
Couldn't be more wrong if you tried. London Broncos largest average seasons gates other than in the first year were achieved in 2006, and 2007. They had been rising at Griffin Park and continued to rise in the first 2 seasons.......then IL, Paul Brown and one of our strongest allies in the Union benches all departed, we employed a couple of chumps as CEO's and the rest is history. £250,000 a year was the rent at The Stoop......10% of what Hughes was "investing" in the club. The rent was a smokescreen, because as per bloody usual, Hughes EXPECTED FANS TO FLOCK TO GAMES WITH NO MARKETING......
Harlequins RU averaged 11k their first season back in the premiership, we averaged 4,900 that year . They averaged 19,300 in the season just gone....we average 2,021, but yeah, let's blame "the relationship" for the near sighted pigheadedness that enable Gus to steal a wage and Hughes to f%^k us up!
For the record. The London Broncos name, nor the Harlequins RL name are the reason nobody knows we exist.......which dovetails nicely into
Quote northernbloke="northernbloke"As for the marketing efforts and choices made that's an eternal discussion that's gone on and will go on for ever on here, what's good what's bad what's affordable!
Again it's nothing that we can do much about, it's up to the club.'"
...utter drivel. The 400 or so who bother buying ST's for the coming championship will be 95% or more made up of long time fans. We have been at the wedding venue now for a few years and yet we've seen little if any increases in crowds and not much in the way of promoting to anyone other than the choir. Last year we saw a lift due to superleague, but the year before was sub 1k..., with no Toronto and no "estimated 1,200" for the game v Batley as we claimed in 2018, we will be lucky to draw as many as the skolars.
As for what's good, bad or affordable in terms of Marketing. In terms of the Broncos, we've seen the bad, with Oyster Card Holders handed out at Canary Wharf, we've seen good with leaflet drops in Brentford and we've seen affordable with leaflet drops in Brentford.......we didn't drop any leaflets to the Twickenham Residents, we didn't do any networking with local businesses and we definitely didn't actively market ourselves to the Union lots fanbase.......but hey, if it makes you feel warm and fuzzy believing that the name and stadium were to blame for the demise of the club, carry on. 
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Harlequins RU averaged 11k their first season back in the premiership, we averaged 4,900 that year . They averaged 19,300 in the season just gone....we average 2,021, but yeah, let's blame "the relationship" for the near sighted pigheadedness that enable Gus to steal a wage and Hughes to f%^k us up!
For the record. The London Broncos name, nor the Harlequins RL name are the reason nobody knows we exist.......which dovetails nicely into
...utter drivel. The 400 or so who bother buying ST's for the coming championship will be 95% or more made up of long time fans. We have been at the wedding venue now for a few years and yet we've seen little if any increases in crowds and not much in the way of promoting to anyone other than the choir. Last year we saw a lift due to superleague, but the year before was sub 1k..., with no Toronto and no "estimated 1,200" for the game v Batley as we claimed in 2018, we will be lucky to draw as many as the skolars.
As for what's good, bad or affordable in terms of Marketing. In terms of the Broncos, we've seen the bad, with Oyster Card Holders handed out at Canary Wharf, we've seen good with leaflet drops in Brentford and we've seen affordable with leaflet drops in Brentford.......we didn't drop any leaflets to the Twickenham Residents, we didn't do any networking with local businesses and we definitely didn't actively market ourselves to the Union lots fanbase.......but hey, if it makes you feel warm and fuzzy believing that the name and stadium were to blame for the demise of the club, carry on.
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Welcome Back CMG/GF your facts and stats have been missed.
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