Quote redsrevolution="redsrevolution"hi guys hope someone can help me out. going to travel down next sat but cant find the prices on the broncos website for away fans. thanks in advance'" Here... www.londonbroncosrl.com/tickets/all_tickets.php

Quote redsrevolution="redsrevolution"hi guys hope someone can help me out. going to travel down next sat but cant find the prices on the broncos website for away fans. thanks in advance'" Here... www.londonbroncosrl.com/tickets/all_tickets.php

which stand is for away fans

Salford fans generally stand right in front of the dugouts.

there is an offer 2 adults 2 under 14's does anyone know if this is for away fans aswell

"@LondonBroncosRL: @LondonBroncosRL @BarnetFC on line sales should be live tomorrow but no reason not to buy now

Call 02083813800 option 2 Tickets from £17"

After the Widnes game prices may fall even further. What is the chance of a free ticket on facebook?

Not a hope in hell.



If you want cheaper use the £2pm membership to get 15% off so you pay £14. That's as low as you'll get.

Exactly.



There's little skin of AK's nose if fans turn up or not. He's got the rent, he's got some ticketing cash, he's got a few bob over the bar and in the food outlets, he'll flog a few shirts and he's got the RFL's marketing budget. This is all cash he wouldn't have had if we were somewhere else. He's rented us FULL TIME a venue that was occasionally used for parties and corporate events, he get's to open his venue 13 more times and will assuredly make money on match days AND HE'S BEING PAID BY THE RFL TO DO IT!



.....it really is the most astute piece of business he will have done in quite a few years. Fuck me, if the RFL had offered me to take the club on for all the benefits and none of the costs AS WELL AS paying me, I'd have been home like a shot!

Reckon we will see some record crowds this year

If that's what you want, that's what you will get.



No fans, no Broncos.

What I want is a bucket full of fans at every game but fear this will not be the case

Catalans 1,136

Salford 1,517

Wakefield 1,887

Huddersfield 1,800 (2nd game in London 2001)

Castleford 1,810

HKR 1,837

Widnes 2,117

Hull FC 1,865

Wire 2,261

Bradford 1,441

Leeds 2,377

Saints 2,839

Wigan 3,200 (2nd game in London 2007)



of the above 13 teams that will visit us in 2014, Gus has delivered 11 LOWEST ever attendances and in the case of the other 2, second lowest attendances, only beaten by years when the away fans had to make 2 trips.



With no prospect of AK doing "deals" to get crowds up, I suspect Gus may well stand a chance of getting the Wigan and Hudds crowds to add to his CV of shame!

Why don;t you back this up with figures to show how much costs TK has taken on, how much money he will recieve and how many fans he needs through the door to make money.



It's very convenient to claim TK has nothing riding on this but until I see proof then this is hot air to support an agenda.



I listened to Ians pubcast as you suggested and he certainly does not portray the situation with the same negativity that you choose to. If fact he says TK is taking a risk, which is contrary to your claim.



The number through the door will ultimately determine whether the money men see a future. Don't come and as you may as well wave goodbye now instead of gloating over the corpse.

What a strange thing to say?

London Broncos fans want the Hive packed...rammed 13 times this year and they want AK so impressed he pumps 7 figures into the club in 2015 and gets them straight back into SL. We want another 4,000 seats, all full again in 2015 giving us a 120k over the season and him 2.5 million in ticket revenue and the same again over the bar and in the shops. We want a successful club.



Alas, I suspect a 2k average and no more broncos (at the hive) is what we'll actually get.

ooohh!! look!!

Broncos could actually do worse.



I don't think anyone wants to see this and we should be aiming to avoid further shame. regardless of whether this Gus guy is involved

That to me is what is so stupid about the whole deal. Surely it should be the Broncos who should be getting the fans in and the only influence they now have on that is team performance which all the experts agree will be poop this year.

AK has a new FULL TIME paying tenant at a facility that he let out for the occasional party and corporate 5 a side event.

He also has a new reason to open the Hive to the public at a score a pop 13 times this year. Those that pay to get in will also spend money in his bars and restaurants as well as in his shop.

He has also received funding from the RFL to market these 13 events, where he keeps the ticketing, bar, restaurant and shop takings.



I'm risk averse......but that is risk free.



If it goes wrong, it goes wrong for the Broncos. AK has cash in the bank.......





BTW, this attitude from Barnet fans of "if you don't come to games, it's your own fault when it fails" is nothing new. It has been the attitude of David Hughes since 2008 (and before probably)....do you need me to go over how that's panned out for us?



Nobody knows we exist. Seriously....2006-2013 at Twickenham and no effort was made to let people know we existed.





For the record, there is an RFL guy on loan to the club/hive on facebook and twitter for the club at the moment.....the first home game is in 9 days time and the crux of the marketing by Barnet FC/The Hive to date is an offer on their website........this isn't going to end well!

but as I have shown.......there is no negative consequence for AK or the Hive if the fans don't turn up. If we average 2k this year, he'll bank 1 million pounds in tickets and residuals, + his RFL marketing money, + the rent on Underhill and administration charges.......worst case scenario for his is.....actually, there isn't one!

So no figures then, how unlike you

Well I'm glad to hear it had nothing to do with the dross served up on the pitch.

So the figures are 1 + 1 + Errm... - Errmmm.. = Happy Days





Just admit you don't know

We finished on 12 points with 5 wins and 2 draws last year....we had 2 more wins in 2004 and one les draw to finish on 15 points but also had 1,247 MORE fans per home game...or 56% if you like.

In Y2K we had 12 points from 6 wins.....and 1,217 more fans per game, or 55% if you like.

YBG (year before gus) we got 2 more points and still had 1,167 more fans per game or 52% if you like



A winning team is a massive help..........but don't hide behind a losing one to explain away crap crowds and even worse PR/Marketing!

what do you mean "admit I don't know" Know what?

I know that AK is investing nothing....nada, not a brass farthing in the club in 2014 but is Receiving rent, ticket and shop revenues and a marketing budget from the RFL.

I don't care if it all comes to a total income of 56p....it would be 56p more than he is investing in the London Broncos. THAT'S THE PERTINENT POINT!



As for exact facts and figures.....I may get them eventually.......whether I choose to share them with you as I have done with other information I am sent is another matter, given how defensive you've become over any questioning regarding AK.

For the record, I'll repeat this just for you. I say well done to AK and good on him.....he has a cracking deal for 2014 and will make money. The amount of money he makes though, will dictate his involvement past this year..

That's the point, you cannot even say that with confidence. There is a level of investment required here that TK will need to get back through ticket receipts. How much the charges from the online ticketing, automated turnstyle software, additional staff, wear and tear etc costs and how much he is charging for Underhill or receiving for Admin are all unknowns to you so you are making unsupported claims with insufficent information. As for marketing, he gets it he spends it so I don't see much profit to be had there unless you are suggesting he will be keeping some of the RFL money to one side.





I am no lover of TK for reasons I wont go into, but I am opposed to the posting of so called facts using insufficent or incorrect information. This is why we clashed yesterday over your travel observations.

Hadn't realised I was hiding, just perhaps making a point you had somehow managed to overlook in your statement. Perhaps the preceding few years of finishing nearly last and starting each year with a resounding wimper added to the decline, coupled with the broader economy and I'm quite happy to agree with you a woeful lack of marketing and direction.