There's absolutely no evidence that Widnes pitch causes more injuries whatsoever. Same at Toronto.

As for Cas and Wakefield, their grounds are a bloody embarrassment to the game. A Sunday pub league wouldn't want to play in them and they should have been kicked out long ago. Wakey shouldn't have been allowed in to start with.

Tolouse have as good and long an RL history as any other in the game, from an RL heartland - just because it's not on the M62 some folk don't like it - fun fact they were invited to join the Northern Union in 1895 but couldn't deal with the commute back then .

Rugby League has two choices. Change or die. Thanks to those that hate change we've seen RU over take League in terms of sports. We're a minority sport in a world flooded with other options

You want to watch a semi pro team in a public park? Fine. I'd rather watch a fully professional and world class team play in a world class stadium. If it's Toronto v Tolouse then so be it.

I love the Giants, but I love RL more

jules lovey as I've said before I could not care a toss about shudds, but I do care about the crap you and yer sidekick brearley post on a regular basis about Wakey whichever board it's on, there seems to be a trend with you posting late at night, maybe this is alcohol related I don't know, but you seem very selective with your replies and at no time do you address any of the issues I confront you with regarding the insults charged against Wakey, perhaps you'd like to explain the reasons for this if it's possible, thanks in anticipation.

Here's the offending post that you chose to conveniently ignore, maybe it goes some way as to the reason you and a couple more of your mates are treated with contempt you deserve, especially when your more than happy to throw the insults our way, when it suits you of course.

But my point still stands chisset- why would you even SEE the post you refer to unless you were skulking about on our board reading all the posts- -the title doesn’t ref wakey at all.
You come on hear and post on here an awful lot for someone who claims to not care about Huddersfield. It’s rather odd.....

But you don't have a point, I can see what your doing here jules old lass your trying to confuse me with a post that doesn't make any sense and littering it with spelling mistakes, maybe you've just had a hard day.

theres a few wildcat fans obsessed with the giants

last season when the giants went to salford in the super 8's and got stuffed, there were 3 or 4 wildcat fans sat in the giants section just intent on winding up giants fans and cheering salford

seen them before easy to point out... they didnt look so happy at magic weekend though this time

Sounds like someone is totally confusing the issues and is 'caught up' in trying to justify old grievances. My understanding is that the players, yes the players are the ones who would know, have no issues with the new T 4 pitch in Toronto other than it is 'slow on the foot'. The new turf has really advanced...this is my understanding...do you have proof to prove different?