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| Quote Smiffy27="Smiffy27"Rugby League remains the best sport to watch.
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You need to put an 'in my opinion' there.
Look, there is absolutely nothing wrong with pointing out that the quality of the game is rotten. You might find mistakes aplenty entertaining, some people don't.
Personally, I found last night (& most games this season) a difficult watch. A close finish doesn't make up for the preceding 70 minutes being of a poor quality.
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| Quote Dita's Slot Meter="Dita's Slot Meter"You need to put an 'in my opinion' there.
Look, there is absolutely nothing wrong with pointing out that the quality of the game is rotten. You might find mistakes aplenty entertaining, some people don't.
Personally, I found last night (& most games this season) a difficult watch. A close finish doesn't make up for the preceding 70 minutes being of a poor quality.'"
Sorry of course it is my opinion. But why oh why do you keep watching if it is giving you no pleasure? There are other things to do. Stop watching, stop moaning on this forum there is new world out there for you.
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| A mistake laden but compelling contest in my view. Never knew what was going to happen next. Harsh to criticise the players on such a short turn around.
Charnley has reverted to boogering around in the tackle which really annoys me. Toby King still some way off his best.
I’m not sure what the call should have been on the Charnley 2 nd try. My gut feeling was he didn’t ground the ball, BUT that Dwyer stole the ball in the tackle with more than one player involved. I suspect that would then have been a penalty try but Sky were noticeably shy about that issue!
The Newman try was class, but perhaps a little early to deify him.
Akouala putting in his usual stint…
Cooper put in a real shift and Ratchford showing again that full back is his natural position. Danny Walker could and probably should have been brought on earlier.
A win without really clicking.
I still think this is the game for me!
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| Danny Walker is a cracker. He must have more game time. I have said before I have no problems with him & Daryl Clark on the pitch.
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| Ps I meant Charnley’s ONLY try obviously!
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| Quote Captain Hook="Captain Hook"A mistake laden but compelling contest in my view. Never knew what was going to happen next. Harsh to criticise the players on such a short turn around.
Charnley has reverted to boogering around in the tackle which really annoys me. Toby King still some way off his best.
I’m not sure what the call should have been on the Charnley 2 nd try. My gut feeling was he didn’t ground the ball, BUT that =#FF0000Dwyer stole the ball in the tackle with more than one player involved. I suspect that would then have been a penalty try but Sky were noticeably shy about that issue!
The Newman try was class, but perhaps a little early to deify him.
Akouala putting in his usual stint…
Cooper put in a real shift and Ratchford showing again that full back is his natural position. Danny Walker could and probably should have been brought on earlier.
A win without really clicking.
I still think this is the game for me!'"
No, you can steal the ball in the tackle over the try line. However I think Dwyer then went into touch so it would have been Wire ball.
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| Quote Smiffy27="Smiffy27"Sorry of course it is my opinion. But why oh why do you keep watching if it is giving you no pleasure? There are other things to do. Stop watching, stop moaning on this forum there is new world out there for you.'"
It's probably a lifetime, emotional connection to the club, same that goes for why most sports fans follow their teams through thick and thin, that keeps me watching. Certainly, if last night's game hadn't involved Wire, I'd have switched off about 20 minutes in.
Like I say, if you find mistake-athons entertaining, then fill your boots, I just find it a frustrating and, eventually, tedious watch. Yes, I know sport is unpredictable and not every game can, or will be, a classic, but I think too many RL games are now error strewn affairs and badly officiated, and that can't be good for the long term future of the game.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"No, you can steal the ball in the tackle over the try line. However I think Dwyer then went into touch so it would have been Wire ball.'"
Really?... that's an odd rule then. So Dwyer could have ran the length of the field and scored last night, but another yard down field and it would be a penalty to Wire??

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| Thanks RG, at the back of my mind I thought there was something “special” about the in goal area but I couldn’t remember.
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| Quote Dita's Slot Meter="Dita's Slot Meter"It's probably a lifetime, emotional connection to the club, same that goes for why most sports fans follow their teams through thick and thin, that keeps me watching. Certainly, if last night's game hadn't involved Wire, I'd have switched off about 20 minutes in.
Like I say, if you find mistake-athons entertaining, then fill your boots, I just find it a frustrating and, eventually, tedious watch. Yes, I know sport is unpredictable and not every game can, or will be, a classic, but I think too many RL games are now error strewn affairs and badly officiated, and that can't be good for the long term future of the game.'"
Did you play much? Cos I reckon those who played or coached tend to have a bit more sympathy ... everybody who has played has dropped the ball and missed a tackle even when they are trying like hell ... unless of course you are Garry Schofield.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"No, you can steal the ball in the tackle over the try line. However I think Dwyer then went into touch so it would have been Wire ball.'"
I believe the correct restart would be a penalty to the attacking team if it was deemed a ball steal? But as you mention, the penalty try awarded for a ball steal was dropped some time ago.
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| Quote Alffi_7="Alffi_7"I believe the correct restart would be a penalty to the attacking team if it was deemed a ball steal? But as you mention, the penalty try awarded for a ball steal was dropped some time ago.'"
Yeah that's right.
It happened right in front of us and in real time you give a try everyday of the week. Hence it goes up to the video ref as a try. Rules are the video ref then has to have conclusive proof that it wasn't a try to overturn the decision. I watched it back last night and there is no conclusive proof as the ball disappears from sight with players falling down on it. Even now on balance having seen it live and then on video I'd say its likely to have been grounded in the initial dropping to the deck. Just because Dwyer gets up with ball in his hands means nothing.
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| I'm on a tour of the Portugese Sherry Vineyards at the moment to top up supplies which took a hammering during the cup semi, so I had to listen in on GMR.
First off, great two points and nice to see Williams get the winning kick - he's done us to death a few times with his boot so nice to be on the right side.
However, the team is really making it hard for themselves. Yes, mitigating circumstances last night with a short turnaround but our first half completion rate in the first half of the Wigan game was equally poor.
We need to establish a platform before we start offload-a-thons and risky passes though with the talent in that team, when it comes off they look great. Powell will be salivating.
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| Quote morrisseyisawire="morrisseyisawire"I'm on a tour of the Portugese Sherry Vineyards at the moment to top up supplies which took a hammering during the cup semi, so I had to listen in on GMR.
First off, great two points and nice to see Williams get the winning kick - he's done us to death a few times with his boot so nice to be on the right side.
However, the team is really making it hard for themselves. Yes, mitigating circumstances last night with a short turnaround but our first half completion rate in the first half of the Wigan game was equally poor.
We need to establish a platform before we start offload-a-thons and risky passes though with the talent in that team, when it comes off they look great. Powell will be salivating.'"
I think the 3 weeks away from the training field will have as big an impact as the short turnaround.
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| Take away the I've gotta try or no try from the refs and let the guy upstairs make a decision..
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| Yep our completion rate is a real worry. Some of our passing was at best "optimistic". But this Leeds side isn't bad ... so a good one to win.
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| Beaten Saints away, Wigan away, Catalans away, Leeds away and drew with Hull (before their standard mid-season implosion)......that's not bad going, especially when there is a lot of room for improvement.
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| I personally enjoyed the game. 2 teams backing up after 72 hours or so put on a great display with a finish that you talk about long after. 2 awesome wins wire within a few days of each other. Ignore the doom mongers and carry on building form.
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| Struggled with their middles again first half.
Weirdly at one point in the 2nd qe had mulhern davis and longstaff as our middle 3 before Hughes got shifted to middle of the field.
Williams needs some decent direct runners outside him,
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| The Leeds middles are good & Mikolaj Oledzki is right handful ... best prop around I reckon.
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| He's come on a lot, I thought he was like bambi on ice 2 seasons ago, combined with holroyd and prior, all similar stature, very leggy.
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| As an aside Walker's try should've been an 8 point one, grubby Gale goes flying in with his foot....naughty.
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| Quote Smiffy27="Smiffy27"The Leeds middles are good & Mikolaj Oledzki is right handful ... best prop around I reckon.'"
He's a good player. If we could play fantasy RL, I'd have him & that Wigan lad, Pearce-paul at the top of my list.
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| Quote Alffi_7="Alffi_7"I believe the correct restart would be a penalty to the attacking team if it was deemed a ball steal? But as you mention, the penalty try awarded for a ball steal was dropped some time ago.'"
I just checked with a refereeing friend of mine. This was his reply.
"The ball is stolen in the act of scoring which is fine under the new rule changes so would be play on. Then Dwyer goes in touch so it would be a Warrington lateral turnover 10 metres out from the tryline. They could choose to play the ball 10m in, 20m in or halfway."
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