01 - St Helens

02 - Wigan

03 - Leeds

04 - Wire

05 - Catalan

06 - Huddersfield

07 - Hull

08 - Hull Kr

09 - Castleford

10 - London

11 - Bradford

12 - Salford

13 - Widnes

14 - Wakefield

1st-2nd Saints, Wire

3rd-6th Catalans, Huddersfield, Leeds, Wigan

7th-9th Castleford, Hull, Hull KR

10th-13th Bradford, London, Salford, Wakefield

14th Widnes



In those groups, but god knows what order within each group.

We'll just have to back it up. Being current lls holders and the pshowing last season would suggest wire would be, in the old rugby saying, 'there or there abouts'. Plus we have improved every position we have lost a man (excluding wing and kingy) and I doubt king was the sole reason for our success.



The strongest teams from last year were warrington, sts, wigan and arguably leeds. They'll probably be close again this season.

wire

saints

leeds

wigan

cats

hudd

kr

bradford

hull

widnes

cas

wakefield

london

salford







maybe way off the mark but hey ho

1-wire

2-wigan

3-saints

4-catalans

5-huddersfield

6-leeds

7-hull fc

8-hull kr

9-bradford

10-salford

11-castleford

12-widnes

13- wakefied

14- london

1 Saints

2 Wire

3 Wigan

4 Leeds

5 Hudds

6 Catalan

7 Hull FC

8 Bradford

9 Hull KR

10 Castleford

11 Widnes

12 Salford

13 Wakey

14 London



Think Saints will set the pace next year, they look very strong to me.

Widnes to do a lot better than some think, mainly thanks to the plastic pitch. Will get some pastings away but at home they could upset one or two of the top sides.

League Express are predicting a 4th place finish for us......discuss?

1.Hull KR (they won me over with their erudite responses on the KR thread)



2. Hull FC (massive ticket prices must mean they'll be worth more than Moran after 2 games, plenty to invest in the club)



3. Huddersfield (Guaranteed points wearing that away kit through opposition laughter)



4. London (inspirational crowd to lift them up in the tight games)



5. Wakefield ( coaching legend first season in charge)



6. Castleford ( who wouldn't be inspired by Millward, giant of the game, ask Richie Mathers for a reference)



7. Bradford ( New investment from a sporting body should help them)



8. Leeds ( 2012 champions from 8th showing the depth of superleague)



9. Widnes ( new plastic pitch will help them bed in, first season jitters just keeping them out the playoffs)



10. Catalans ( Leon 'full season' Pryce and Thomas 'never injured' Bosc not enough to inspire them to top icon_cool.gif



11. Saints (The loss of Graham will save on their sun cream bill meaning long term investment for England RU but not quick enough to save this season)



12. Warrington ( Dads army, no legs, no long term investment and too much arrogance will be their downfall)



13. Salford ( Miracles do exist with an usually high finish for the Reds)



14. Wigan (Wane works his magic)

Who have the Express got as 1,2,3 then?

I agree with this one !



1st-2nd Saints, Wire

3rd-6th Catalans, Huddersfield, Leeds, Wigan

7th-9th Castleford, Hull, Hull KR

10th-13th Bradford, London, Salford, Wakefield

14th Widnes

In those groups, but god knows what order within each group.

1. St Helens

2. Warrington

3. Wigan

4. Catalans

5. Leeds

6. Hudds

7. Hull

8. Hull KR

9. Bradford

10. Cas

11. Widnes

12. Wakefield

13. Salford

14. London



If we can keep Watts, Phelps, Cross, Clarke, Moore and Briscoe fit we'll stand a lot better chance. As soon as you start to take 2/3 players out of our team, i admit we look weak. Watts isn't playing on friday apparently and already alot of creativity at halfback.

Saints, Wigan, Leeds. That order. Saints Wigan GF with Saints winning it. Apparently our dads army won't be able to keep up with the other 3. Made me laugh yesterday anyway. Especially considering Wigan look a lot worse off compared to last year!

Don't give a shiit. Just wanna make the Grand Final, last season was a perfect example of us perfroming when it matters. Top would be nice but been there, done that. Let's get a Grand final win.

1. Warrington

2. St Helens

3. Catalans

4. Wigan

5. Leeds

6. Huddersfield

7. Hull FC

8. London

9. Hull KR

10. Castleford

11. Wakefield

12. Bradford

13. Salford

14. Widnes

I readily admit I'm hungry. I want to go to old trafford and then I want to destroy who we meet there. If we lose 12 games next season and are able to win the gf. Good.



I personally can't see wigan or leeds challenging our momentum tbh. Saints will be tough. If saints come top I wouldn't be suprised. Luckily they couldn't beat 13 bags of sand in a grand final though.

1 Saints

2 Wire

3 Leeds

4 Catalan

5 Wigan

6 Hudds

7 Hull FC

8 Bradford

9 Hull KR

10 Castleford

11 London

12 Wakey

13 Salford

14 Widnes

1- warrington

2- saints

3- rhinos

4- wigan

5- giants

6- catalan

7- hull kr

8- hull fc

9- castleford

10- bradford

11- salford

12- wakefield

13- broncos

14- widnes

www.code13rugbyleague.com/2012/0 ... redictions

www.code13rugbyleague.com/2012/0 ... redictions

Adding all the votes so far together it comes to something along the lines of this:

1. Warrington

2. St Helens

3. Leeds

4. Wigan

5. Catalans

6. Huddersfield

7. Hull FC

8. Hull KR

9. Bradford

10. Castleford

11. Widnes

12. Wakefield

13. Salford

14. London

Cant see anybody but Wire and Saints having the league this year. Leeds' outside backs are young and inexperienced. Wigans team hasnt improved. Wire or Saints for me. Grand final, Who knows??

Saints

Wire

Wigan

Leeds

Catalan

Hudds

Hull FC

Cas

Hull KR

Salford

Bradford

London

Widnes

Wakefield

1. Wire

2. Saints

3. Wigan

4. Catalan

5. Leeds

6. Huddersfield

7. Hull FC

8. Castleford

9.London

10. Hull KR

11. Bradford

12. Widnes

13. Salford

14. Wakefield

Saints top, then Wigan, Leeds, then us.



Personally, I'd go....



1. Saints

2. Wire

3. Wigan

4. Catalans

5. Leeds

6. Huddersfield

7. Hull

8. Bradford

9. Hull KR

10. Wakefield

11. Castleford

12. Widnes

13. Salford

14. London

1. Warrington

2. Wigan

3. Leeds

4. St Helens

5. Hull

6. Catalans

7. Huddersfield

8. Castleford

9. Hull KR

10. London

11. Bradford

12. Salford

13. Widnes

14. Wakefield

1. Warrington

2. Saints

3. Leeds

4. Wigan

5. Catalans

6. Huddersfield

7. Hull

8. Castleford

9. Hull KR

10. London

11. Salford

12. Bradford

13. Wakefield

14. Widnes



Managerial Casualties : 1st Potter, 2nd Agar, 3rd Wane.