Rip the betting slips up Warrington were a joke.

Made a few quid on Clint Greenshields and Hicksy anytime tryscorer.

h.fax -8
wakey -6
keighley -14


nice little treble

The S men don't often let you down on the ald handicap betting unlike dire. -6 at Evs was a steal today.

Whilst it's a betting thread i've just been looking at the entries for Cheltenham in two weeks.

I've already talked about Ashley Brook in the Queen Mother. Master Minded is obviously the one to beat, especially with it likely to be Good-soft by then. AB is still around the 60 mark, is around 9lb better off and also carrying less than the likes of Well Chief and Big Zeb, but if Master Minded gets withdrawn, which is still a strong possibility, then they will drop drastically. But if Nicholls runs Master Minded, definitly get on Ashley Brook e/w.

Voy Por Ustedes is the clear favourite for the RyanAir Chase, but I personally think that this race could be a grade 1 too far for him, and I think the going will benefit Our Vic and Tidal Bay a lot more than Voy. Also, if Jon-Jo keeps Exotic Dancer in then he is a strong outside possibility to return to winning ways. I would plump on Exotic Dancer for a surprise win.

Onto the main event, the Gold Cup. Going to be a very exciting battle between Kauto Star and Denman. Kauto didn't start well in this fixture last year but managed to hold on for 2nd, behind Denman. The weights won't matter to Kauto, even though Denman has only had the one run out since the race last year, Kauto Star is a class above.

Just looking at todays lots, Whatcanyasay is overpriced at 8s (15.10 Catterick)

9/1 second, stumbled slightly three out

, just lost to Ebboray

Why would Ashley Brook improve at the age of 11?and why is it a strong possibilty that Master Minded will miss the QM?
Exotic Dancer runs in the gold cup.

He doesn't need to improve, he just needs to run to his form, which he has been in training. If he runs to his ability, ground should be g-s, suits him, he will run a very good race and has every chance of winning it.



That has come from the Nicholls camp over the weekend, MM will be hard to beat if he runs, hence Ashley Brook as a definite e/w option if he does run


Hence why I put him to win if he runs in the Ryan Air Chase. I've just got a feeling he'll put in this, hence getting the money on now. I have my likely winners listed if he does run the Gold Cup.

As the previous poster has asked =redwhy is it Masterminded is going to be withdrawn, ive heard nothing to support this, whilst having connections to the nicholls stable he is a banker if ive ever seen one however at 1/3 its no price for me unless youre so sure on him not running then can i take evens with you on BF





Ok, next =darkblue"a grade 1 to far for him" did u see his last run he won it at a canter and has come out of it very well, iirc he's the only horse to have beaten MM and he will excel here, our vic needs good ground and as you mentioned in your AB comments its likely to gd-sf then clearly this will not suit and am pretty sure he will go for WH, as for tidal bay he has not jumpred well at all, and even though he likes cheltenham it wasnt the strongest renewal of the arkle he won last year and see vpu as a likely winner

And finally, =greenyoure comments re gold cup are imho clearly wrong, kauto didnt start well, the pace set by denman was too furious that kauto star had to rush his jumps (which he clearly isnt the best at) and travel further, and denman clearly made it a test of stamina on ground that was on the soft side (kauto star dosent imo fully get the gold cup trip on soft-ish ground.
Denman has only had one race this year, and a very dissapointing one at that and the noises coming out of the stable are not good at all, as for Kauto star being a class above i dont think you can say that as denman fairly bet ks in last years gc, aswell as winning hennesey on massive weights (i was there at gc and couldnt believe it) ks just held onto 2nd from neputne collognes who is not a consistent sort. alberta's run e/w for me

I'll be at Cheltenham on the wednesday and that is the worst ever field (apart from Master-minded) I've seen for a QM.

I'm on ED at 44 for the gold cup,think his owner already has 1 in the Ryanair,cant see him running both.

=redWe'll have to see regards Master Minded, but it's something i've heard. Has he been entered in any of the others and Nicholll likely to run him in that instead?

=darkblue VPU has run well, but I still think this race is too much for him. I fancy Our Vic (If Exotic Dancer does take the Gold Cup), Our Vic runs better on softer ground, and Good-Soft would benefit him tremendously. Tidal Bay, he knows the course and does prefer the better ground, but still a very strong challenger, especially with the lower weights

=greenKauto was dissapointing last year, and we both know he can run much better, and he has been, and as long as he runs OK I can't see there being too much of a problem. Denman will battle hard, and like you say, the one race since the last Gold Cup, I don't think he will hold up at all. I am a massive Denman fan, he is a masterclass, but Kauto is still that much better, he is a star.

You mean you weren't lucky this week?

=redNo he hasnt

=darkblueCant see our vic winning if im being honest

=greenYou have to remember there are imo some doubts re, kauto star and imo the odds dont currently reflect this since the GC last year he lost at aintree bet mediocre opposistion in ireland, unseated at haydock and won impressively at kempton his favourite track which is right handed, so i wouldnt be rushing in to lump on, although i very much like kautpo star and hope he wins



btw ur welcome on our board particulary cheltenham week as ill be starting up a festival betting topic

Wouldn't bet on Kauto unless I had enough money to make it worthwhile. I get enough enjoyment from just watching him. Would prefer a cheeky e/w on likes of Air Force One or Notre Pere.

Thanks, will do

Anyone on hear in the borough arms on sunday would have seen one of the lads scoop 6 slips with 5 winners and a second. The horse which came second was Damisar and lost by half a length, he got £189, instead of 3 million.

if you do the scoop 6 you have to put selections into a lucky 15 or lucky 31 and a pound each way accumulator,if you get the first 4 or 5 up you'll net a handsome reward whilst waiting for that elusive 6th winner

ask the tache who his favourite darts player is when he's betting!

It was only the second time he had done the scoop, and brought his slip in to show how close he was to winning,It was only when Ste the landlord looked at the slip and told him he had won that he knew he was getting the £189.

There is no chance on earth Masterminded will miss cheltenham

Wednesday teatime and still no handicaps out.Shocking!!!

Wednesday teatime and still no handicaps out.Shocking!!!

Betfair

Wire 1.75
Wakey 1.73

what does this mean....im use to teams getting a start...for e.g. us friday 6..

Dave;
All in again on the same knocker as last sunday.Hopefully looking at -6/-8

Proberley get team news on friday.

I've got Cas at -22,proberley looking at Salford -10/12.So there's 2 for you