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| Quote bbfc00="bbfc00"Ryan is retiring at the end of the season as far as I know'"
He has never made a secret that he wouldn't mind retiring at the end of the season.
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| A loan wouldn't make sense for him or Warrington. Even if he isn't first choice, he'll get a lot of game time with injuries and rotation.
Hope he retires here, he's been a wonderful signing and hopefully can be a part of getting us some more silverware this year.
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| Quote Fantastic Mr Cat="Fantastic Mr Cat"I can't say i've ever heard or seen that said'"
the reason why you haven't ever heard or seen this is obvious.
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| Quote Builth Wells Wire="Builth Wells Wire"He has never made a secret that he wouldn't mind retiring at the end of the season.'"

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| Quote Jack Napier="Jack Napier"A loan wouldn't make sense for him or Warrington. Even if he isn't first choice, he'll get a lot of game time with injuries and rotation.
Hope he retires here, he's been a wonderful signing and hopefully can be a part of getting us some more silverware this year.'"
It would if it would get Atkins a contract beyond 2019. It would also make sense for Warrington if Burrell was good enough to act as cover for 2019, thus freeing up salary cap space for a mid season signing.
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| Quote Alffi_7="Alffi_7"It would if it would get Atkins a contract beyond 2019. It would also make sense for Warrington if Burrell was good enough to act as cover for 2019, thus freeing up salary cap space for a mid season signing.'"
Exactly. If he wants a contract for 2020 he needs to be playing regularly in 2019. Price has dropped him twice this season and he's clearly on the outer.
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| Quote easyWire="easyWire"Atkins not first choice any more BUT I would have him ahead of Burrell. I know that might not sit well with a few people. I suppose Burrell is effectively very cheap though for 2 years.'"
He's "cheap" in the sense that a small proportion of his salary counts towards the Cap. However, putting the cap to one side for a moment, he will still be on a big wage in cash terms and I can't see us spending that to have him sat on the bench.
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| According to League Express, several clubs looking to bring him in for this season.
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| I think it would a big mistake to get rid now. We have been very lucky with injuries this year and last. Even though he is obviously not first choice at the moment we are short of back cover. If we had a few injuries (like some other sides) we'd regret our actions.
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| Quote Smiffy27="Smiffy27"I think it would a big mistake to get rid now. We have been very lucky with injuries this year and last. Even though he is obviously not first choice at the moment we are short of back cover. If we had a few injuries (like some other sides) we'd regret our actions.'"
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Even Currie or Hughes could fill in at centre.
Get shut for me. He's a liability now.
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| Quote Lord Tony Smith="Lord Tony Smith"King
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Get shut for me. He's a liability now.'"
Burrell? I think we ought to see him play.
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| Seems to be heading for a rather sad end to what has been an illustrious and successful career at Warrington. Been a great player for us. Hope whatever happens he is allowed to leave with some dignity
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| Quote The Railwayman="The Railwayman"Seems to be heading for a rather sad end to what has been an illustrious and successful career at Warrington. Been a great player for us. Hope whatever happens he is allowed to leave with some dignity'"
Like we did for Ben Harrison?
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| Quote Wires71="Wires71"Like we did for Ben Harrison?'"
Ben Harrison and Simon Grix each got treated well by the club, and it was handled subtly and quietly, allowing them to leave the playing roster ( to free up cap space) but keeping their previous salaries whilst working in coaching/player welfare/community relations etc. Given that these latter roles normally command salaries much below playing contract terms, this was a great gesture by the management.
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| Well said, kelvin ...spot on !
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| I don't see why the club should be viewed as negative on Atkins part? Unless the club are forcing him out. If you take the view that the club don't want to offer him a contract past 2019 (not sure too many argue too much about that?) then it gives Atkins the opportunity to sort his future out sooner. I think he probably has another two years at least left in him at SL level, just not possibly at the top of SL. If he can sign a 2 & 1/2 year deal with someone now, I would imagine that would be a big relief for himself and his family?
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| I said a loan didn't make sense as if he gets injured the club have dead salary and Atkins doesn't have a contract.
Allowing him to leave now permanently allows him to secure his future. He's good enough for a 2 1/2 year deal outside the big clubs.
I'd be sad to see him go on a personal level. I hope he gets the outcome he wants.
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| Quote Jack Napier="Jack Napier"I said a loan didn't make sense as if he gets injured the club have dead salary and Atkins doesn't have a contract.
Allowing him to leave now permanently allows him to secure his future. He's good enough for a 2 1/2 year deal outside the big clubs.
I'd be sad to see him go on a personal level. I hope he gets the outcome he wants.'"
If he is loaned to the end of the season, the destination club pay the salary irrespective of injury if I understand correctly.
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| Quote Asgardian13="Asgardian13"Ben Harrison and Simon Grix each got treated well by the club, and it was handled subtly and quietly, allowing them to leave the playing roster ( to free up cap space) but keeping their previous salaries whilst working in coaching/player welfare/community relations etc. Given that these latter roles normally command salaries much below playing contract terms, this was a great gesture by the management.'"
I make no comment on Grix. I thought there were question marks at the time as to why he was loaned to Wakefield by Smith for the tail end of 2016 rather than given a chance to get back in the Wire side ahead of his testimonial the following February. Certainly at the time of going to Wakefield Harrison was only 28 and had a target of getting back into the Wire first team. Apologies if this was not correct.
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| I’m torn on Atkins. He can still make a tackle and he can still get over the line. But he’ll back a 1% chance of himself crossing over a 99% chance of his winger. He must drive Charnley mad.
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| It would be a brave, or foolish, man, that would wager Charnley has scored more trys from a King pass than an Atkins pass this season.
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| Leave Goodwin at centre and put Atkins on the wing for Cas game. He can then be as selfish as he likes. No need to pass to anyone as long as he gets over the line.
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That would be quite amusing as goodwin doesnt pass to the wing too much either
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| Can anyone explain WHY we would need to loan Atkins out? We don't need to free up the cap space at present and he's decent back-up for squad rotation / injuries. Price wants a deep squad with above-average quality standing by for call-up, so I don't see how a loan move would benefit Warrington at all. Also, Atkins knows the score with how Price works - there's no favourites and you wait your turn, so I doubt he's spitting his dummy out and demanding first-team rugby elsewhere...
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