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| Do ya know where your coming from,
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| Quote ="YED79"With a criminal conviction you simply are not allowed to be in certain professions
i just think this should be one of them.'" Little bit over the top there, I mean we're talking Rugby players here not the bIoody home sec!
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| Violent criminals should be locked up for a good 15 years anyroad, so yes.
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| An actual court transcript......
"After shouting insults at his wife, Mr X grabbed her arm, causing three bruises. "
the world is in an absolute shambles and we have lost all sense of what is a serious crime and what is not.......
Imagine its a Saturday night and some scrote from Longford rings 999 and said theres a bloke just grabbed a womans arm and called her a dirty slut.....
can you imagine the response.....
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"An actual court transcript......
"After shouting insults at his wife, Mr X grabbed her arm, causing three bruises. "
the world is in an absolute shambles and we have lost all sense of what is a serious crime and what is not.......
Imagine its a Saturday night and some scrote from Longford rings 999 and said theres a bloke just grabbed a womans arm and called her a dirty slut.....
can you imagine the response.....'"
would you stand for that if that was your daughter/wife/mother/grandmother/sister
i know i wouldn't
there is more to assault than just bruises
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| Quote ="YED79"would you stand for that if that was your daughter/wife/mother/grandmother/sister
i know i wouldn't
there is more to assault than just bruises'"
the transcript is only partial and doesn't go into the context of the argument.
as for should they be allowed to play, well that is surely the job of a RFL panel to discide as to whether convicted players have brought the game into disrepute. baring in mind these players are role models to youngsters and are effectively paid entertainers who are recieving our money.
if convicted players are found to have brought the game into disrepute then the RFL should act accordingly.
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| Quote ="YED79"I don't want to name names for legal reasons but there have been a few cases past and present were players have been a little bit naughty and broke the law.
Just wondering if people think that if a player breaks the law (a fairly serious law) that they should be banned from the game.
We have a reputation [rugby of being a family sport with good reletionships with the community as a whole.
Players need to be good role models and frankly some have been far from it.
Should we make examples of players now so that future players start to learn that these types of things will not be tolerated'" no unless otherwise stated in the players contract. unless its work related ie bus driver drink driving etc it was completely un related and should be treated as so unless they can not un-forfill their duties ie playing
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| I say they should be publicly pilloried, stretched on the rack then hung, drawn and quartered. That will teach them.
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| Quote ="mark_m"I say they should be publicly pilloried, stretched on the rack then hung, drawn and quartered. That will teach them.'"
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| Quote ="mark_m"I say they should be publicly pilloried, stretched on the rack then hung, drawn and quartered. That will teach them.'"
Hang 'em, then hang 'em again just so they get the message. Then make them sign for an NFP club.
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| Quote ="JWP"Hang 'em, then hang 'em again just so they get the message. Then make them sign for an NFP club.'"
Although it would be hard to tell if Leon Pryce has had his neck stretched.
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| Quote ="mark_m"Although it would be hard to tell if Leon Pryce has had his neck stretched.'"
Hang him by his Sourav Gangulys
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| The RFL should take a leaf out of the NRL's book and ban them from the competition. It sends out a strong signal to all the other players in the league as well as the player(s) who get banned.
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| I`m all for giving people a 2nd chance in life within reason, obviously certain things are beyond this.
If you brought in a rule where it was 2 strikes and your out then i don`t think any player could have any arguement against this, what i mean by 2 strikes and out is things like being charged by the police twice or two court convictions during your career and on the 2nd charge or conviction then your out of RL worldwide.
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"I`m all for giving people a 2nd chance in life within reason, obviously certain things are beyond this.
If you brought in a rule where it was 2 strikes and your out then i don`t think any player could have any arguement against this, what i mean by 2 strikes and out is things like being charged by the police twice or two court convictions during your career and on the 2nd charge or conviction then your out of RL worldwide.'"
*cough a certain saints player would fit that criteria cough*
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| IMO any conviction, whether a custodial sentence or not, of a violent or drug related nature should be treated by the RFL as bringing the game into disrepute and severe bans should be handed out accordingly (in the region of 6 to 12 months - and if necessary the bans to commence on the players release from prison). A second conviction of a violent or drug related nature should then result in a lifetime ban from the sport.
However, we all know how spineless the RFL are once a club turn up with their army of lawyers claiming their star player shouldn't be banned on the basis of a mistake in their private life.
Ultimately it is down the the morals of those in charge at a club. If they feel that a players actions are not in keeping with the image of the their club, then they should sack the player (and if possible keep hold of his registration). If those in charge have no morals or backbone then they will make their excuses and allow the player to continue at the club.
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| Quote ="YED79"With a criminal conviction you simply are not allowed to be in certain professions
i just think this should be one of them.'"
nah, as previously stated if you go to jail, you can't play rugby, although i did once play against Garth prison inmates at rugby union once years ago (they never play away for some reason!)
if you bring the club into disrepute, then it's a board decission to sack suspend or fine, apart from that let em play rugby i say.
drug offences are automatic ban any way, RFL would be open to litigation for restriction of trade if it started banning people willy nilly
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| Quote ="RAI of Sunshine"Violent criminals should be locked up for a good 15 years anyroad, so yes.'"
Violent criminals should play rugby league, might teach some discipline
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| Quote ="Dawson"Violent criminals should play rugby league, might teach some discipline'"
A fair few already do, it seems.
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| how awesome would it be if the rfl banned people who got charged in court and a splinter "convict league" was formed!!
imagine the game superleague XIII v convict XIII "battle for freedom" hahaha
"**** ***** has paid his debt to society and now he wants revenge"
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| So what happens if they bring this rule in and I decide to have some mischief on the town, I see a SL player and start mouthing off to him and feeling up his girlfriends booty, if he makes any threats then a quiet reminder that he faces a lifetime ban and career over should get him to quiet down and let me have his missus in peace...
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"So what happens if they bring this rule in and I decide to have some mischief on the town, I see a SL player and start mouthing off to him and feeling up his girlfriends booty, if he makes any threats then a quiet reminder that he faces a lifetime ban and career over should get him to quiet down and let me have his missus in peace...'"
Haven't you learnt your lesson after last time?
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| Quote ="tino"
imagine the game superleague XIII v convict XIII "battle for freedom" hahaha
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Don't we already do that, and the Aussies beat us just about every time!
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| Well TS has come out and said he and the club will support Reardon in every way.
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