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Or thane:I absolutely hate this, not Liam Knight as i'd be happy with him here, what i hate is that Burgess wasn't interested in the first place.He's knows him, has played with him, would have known he was available but wasn't interested, now he's playing really well Burgess is suddenly interested in poaching him. My confidence in Burgess has disintegrated very quickly, and he seems deluded and panicky with things he's doing. If we sign Him we should get rid of Musgrove and keep Vaughan. Byrne, Knight, Vaughan, Harrison, Yates, Philbin & Wood looks pretty solid, Crowther as back up possibly as well. Dan Russell i had a good feeling about, then saw him play and oh dear, not his fault but he's more championship level. We need 2 new good props minimum, and Either Play leyland or let him go. And just move on from Russell, and hopefully Lindop and Wrench both stay fit and keep developing. I like king, nothing fancy but is a workhorse centre and makes more yards and gets us on the front foot more than our props at times. And only costing 50k on the cap is a BIG plus, but the fact we haven't re-signed him already suggests he's on his way out. To be fair on Burgess didn't Knight only become available mid season when we had no quota spots left? Whether we should have filled that last spot with Russell is obviously the question we all know the answer to, its left our hands tied - maybe we would have been in a better position to bring Amone in if we had that flexibility of a free spot. Bringing in Russell certainly seems panic stations after losing Bateman & Nicholson, keeping our powder dry would have seemed the better option. King at £50k on the cap works well for his current contract, but I'm sure his next deal will be lower so the benefit is reduced, maybe having Walker / Ashton on £100k cap or Currie on £50k cap may work just as well. I'd keep King, but his salary has to be right and as you say Lindop should be considered first choice centre next year on his preferred side. Wrench I think at this stage can only be considered a back up given his injury issues of the past two years. |
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Or thane:I absolutely hate this, not Liam Knight as i'd be happy with him here, what i hate is that Burgess wasn't interested in the first place.He's knows him, has played with him, would have known he was available but wasn't interested, now he's playing really well Burgess is suddenly interested in poaching him. My confidence in Burgess has disintegrated very quickly, and he seems deluded and panicky with things he's doing. If we sign Him we should get rid of Musgrove and keep Vaughan. Byrne, Knight, Vaughan, Harrison, Yates, Philbin & Wood looks pretty solid, Crowther as back up possibly as well. Dan Russell i had a good feeling about, then saw him play and oh dear, not his fault but he's more championship level. We need 2 new good props minimum, and Either Play leyland or let him go. And just move on from Russell, and hopefully Lindop and Wrench both stay fit and keep developing. I like king, nothing fancy but is a workhorse centre and makes more yards and gets us on the front foot more than our props at times. And only costing 50k on the cap is a BIG plus, but the fact we haven't re-signed him already suggests he's on his way out. To be fair on Burgess didn't Knight only become available mid season when we had no quota spots left? Whether we should have filled that last spot with Russell is obviously the question we all know the answer to, its left our hands tied - maybe we would have been in a better position to bring Amone in if we had that flexibility of a free spot. Bringing in Russell certainly seems panic stations after losing Bateman & Nicholson, keeping our powder dry would have seemed the better option. King at £50k on the cap works well for his current contract, but I'm sure his next deal will be lower so the benefit is reduced, maybe having Walker / Ashton on £100k cap or Currie on £50k cap may work just as well. I'd keep King, but his salary has to be right and as you say Lindop should be considered first choice centre next year on his preferred side. Wrench I think at this stage can only be considered a back up given his injury issues of the past two years. | |
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Its a shame we can't get him off the salary cap and bring Dom Young over to replace him in between his stints for the Roosters and Newcastle!
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Ashton has developed beyond being a speed merchant, but I really hope that we get the recovery right and don’t rush this. This season is done for him, so let’s not try and force a pre season into him for early round fixtures.
We’ll miss the way he carries the ball off our line. Lindop the likely candidate to fill in, good chance for him to put his hand up and get 15 games under his belt and audition for the right centre spot, assuming Tai is going.
The knock on effect is that Jake Thewlis can’t really go back to Salford with our backline being so depleted. At least until Wrench is back ready for first team, given King is carrying multiple knocks. Jake T will get a chance this week, and likely Cas too, but then on will likely be back to the reserves.
Definitely not suggesting he's a speed merchant. He's the best finisher/winger in the league however he is also the fastest player in the league. Hopefully he doesn't lose that burst of pace off the mark. | | |
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Just asking the question re knee injuries - do we have a conditioning issue or is this just extreme bad luck?
Wrench x 2 ACL
Thomas ACL
Currie x 2 ACL
Ashton ACL
Philbin ACL
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Not at all, you can't blame conditioning for ACL injuries or the whole squad would have them. Thomas did his ACL thanks to a tackle, his ACL didn't just go. Currie last did his ACL 7 years ago. Philbins was 3 years ago etc I get your thinking but i think it's just a spate of injuries at the minute, and Ashton was clearly risked by the club hence Lindop was on the bench, so they knew there was a problem anyway  | | |
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Ashton has developed beyond being a speed merchant, but I really hope that we get the recovery right and don’t rush this. This season is done for him, so let’s not try and force a pre season into him for early round fixtures.
We’ll miss the way he carries the ball off our line. Lindop the likely candidate to fill in, good chance for him to put his hand up and get 15 games under his belt and audition for the right centre spot, assuming Tai is going.
The knock on effect is that Jake Thewlis can’t really go back to Salford with our backline being so depleted. At least until Wrench is back ready for first team, given King is carrying multiple knocks. Jake T will get a chance this week, and likely Cas too, but then on will likely be back to the reserves.
Definitely not suggesting he's a speed merchant. He's the best finisher/winger in the league however he is also the fastest player in the league. Hopefully he doesn't lose that burst of pace off the mark. I wince when I see such a fast, athletic, thoroughbred winger like Ashton have to smash into 'middles' first carry from his own line. I know it's the modern game, I just don't like it. He will be fortunate to retain his pace. | | | |
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"I wince when I see such a fast, athletic, thoroughbred winger like Ashton have to smash into 'middles' first carry from his own line. I know it's the modern game, I just don't like it. He will be fortunate to retain his pace."
Totally agree. You shouldn't have your best attacking players (like Dufty) smacking the ball up and getting crunched. There are plenty of others (the foot soldiers) to do that. The opposition must love it.
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