I want to know where Wrench is also. The club have been very quiet on both. Am i right in thinking they've both been out for over a year now? 

Nothing against you personally but this kind of post really annoys me. I see this kind of post a lot oh we can?t play x,y or z against this or that team. Why not, it?s the best way to learn imo. We will learn nothing from him playing against Salford reserves etc. He as been selected for the Lancashire Academy Squad so is clearly highly thought of. He was in last week?s 21 and agin in this one, I hope it?s not just for experience around the first team learning how to order coffee.

He has a bad hamstring injury on the same leg that he broke his ankle.

Hayes is having ?complications? is what I was told, his leg is now slightly shorter which is causing issues when he starts running as there is additional pressure on joints / hamstring etc.


Wrench was doing well but his recovery slowed down a bit and needed a tidy up operation. Initially was expected to be an April return but now expected just after Magic Weekend - think there was an article in the Guardian about it.

I?m absolutely for young players getting opportunities, you?ll see I?ve been critical in the past about signing players like Greg Minikin as they block player pathways in my view. All I?m doing is raising a point that the coaching team may take the view he isn?t physically developed enough yet - I?ve heard plenty of coaches talk about this previously - Tony Smith, Gary Chambers etc. Just because one 17 year old (Lindop) is ready doesn?t mean every 17 year old is physically ready for a SL game. As I say, no idea if this applies to Irwin or not - just wondering really.