Not sure I agree, Ben Currie being the case in point, he was a regular first teamer at 18, he was clearly always going to be good enough and the club backed him. To a lesser extent, Philbin got plenty of game time as a younger player as well, he was always going to be a decent SL player.

Fact is for a long time the players coming through weren't good enough to be given the opportunity to step up.

On O'Brien and Patton specifically, they played 60 odd and 100 odd games for us, so they were given plenty of opportunity I think. O'Brien was the better of the two, but he wasn't good enough IMO to be considered a starter for a 'top 4 club'.

[quote="Or thane":r46mmpfb]Mikolaj Oledzki from Leeds, quality prop when in form, and off contract at the end of the year. Wouldn't mind him at all.[/quote:r46mmpfb] I like him but his form as been very mixed last couple of seasons.

[quote="Or thane":53t3lqhq]Mikolaj Oledzki from Leeds, quality prop when in form, and off contract at the end of the year. Wouldn't mind him at all.[/quote:53t3lqhq] I think he’s a confidence player. Very good or very poor. Might go well under Sam.

I disagree. Oledzki has been useless for a few years. Not sure what the hype is about personally. Our bar should be set higher than this.

[quote="wirecation":31mobuet]I disagree. Oledzki has been useless for a few years. Not sure what the hype is about personally. Our bar should be set higher than this.[/quote:31mobuet] Totally agree, very overrated never punched his weight

I wouldn’t put him down as the ‘pack leader’ we’re going to need to replace Vaughan. Probably a better option than Musgrove though I’d say as bench prop - though I’d prefer someone with more impact.