[quote="rubber duckie":295haebm]Drinkwater does hold the game well. So often with a money ball or kick that goes without recognition. We loose, Drinky now, and we are in trouble.[/quote:295haebm] Ewe wouldn't be in trouble at all if we lost Drinkwater. His kicking game is bang average. All his kicks go straight to a fullback or winger. He almost never makes a break. He sometimes gives a good pass but don't ever remember him delivering any balls to anyone but the man next to him. His defence is terrible. I'll look at the stats next week but I'd bet he's got the highest ratio of missed tackles per attempt made. It's every single game I see him get shrugged off. I think we could stick ratchford or currie at 7 and we'd be in almost the same position

[quote="Fantastic Mr Cat":1gn80i1z]DING DING DING DING[/quote:1gn80i1z] I hope that you answered your doorbell FMC, and took delivery of Nathan Clearly.

[quote="Fantastic Mr Cat":f09k1agv]And that is my point , and has been when this comes up every few years, people disliked him from the off, from his attitude and his comments when he reluctantly signed. But we got to 2 finals that year, who got us there? 7 Roberts? As already discussed 6 Brown? Past his best/not good enough, and wasn't a very popular signing at the time. 1 Ratchford? Again another that has been dismissed as not good enough. [color=#FF0000:f09k1agv]So, who got us to two finals that year?[/color:f09k1agv] It's OK to dislike someone based on how they are and still accept they've contributed to the side. People have been complaining about drinkwater's kicking game again since the kr game. Kr swarmed us from start to finish rhat game, we didn't make any yardage, we were kicking off the back foot under pressure. If you look at the entire league, I'd say drinkwaters long kicking fame is equal to about 90% of other teams, the only exceptions I'd give is sneyd(though you saw last week even he has off weeks when he's shut down and useless) and it seems mikey Lewis,[/quote:f09k1agv] This says so much of how the standard and quality of SL has dropped.

[quote="MorePlaymakersNeeded":1lomn57u]This says so much of how the standard and quality of SL has dropped.[/quote:1lomn57u] Dropped in 2018 or dropped now? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Su ... gue_season We beat a pretty good saints team that finished top to get to rhe gf

[quote="MorePlaymakersNeeded":1lomn57u]This says so much of how the standard and quality of SL has dropped.[/quote:1lomn57u] Dropped in 2018 or dropped now? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Su ... gue_season We beat a pretty good saints team that finished top to get to rhe gf

[quote="Fantastic Mr Cat":1r5o1p33]Dropped in 2018 or dropped now? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Su ... gue_season We beat a pretty good saints team that finished top to get to rhe gf[/quote:1r5o1p33] It's been falling for many years.

[quote="Fantastic Mr Cat":1r5o1p33]Dropped in 2018 or dropped now? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Su ... gue_season We beat a pretty good saints team that finished top to get to rhe gf[/quote:1r5o1p33] It's been falling for many years.

[quote="Bobby Digital":33hqh423]Duckie was on Vaughans case as not making meters. In my view Vaughan is one of best prop forwards in super league.[/quote:33hqh423] No “Duckie” wasn’t! duckie was on the case of Vaughan because of his poor discipline and his ability to find himself sidelined at the times we needed him most. In contrast to what you said, the games that he did play, enhanced his meter making averages, because he didn’t get to dazzle against the likes of the big guns or the play offs. Imo, he let his teammates down. And that’s because he IS one of the games best props on the pitch.. Nobody is bigger than my club, and his poor choices cost us heavier while he was off the pitch, than when he was on it. This season I’m not on his case, because he is making better choices.