A problem many of the Wire teams I've watched over three and a half decades, including some talented ones, is an underlying mental fragility. Once momentum starts going against us we find it very hard to break and we get mired into long losing runs.

When Cullen was coach I remember on several occasions after a defeat he'd bring up an earlier defeat as the reason, like "that Cup defeat against St Helens absolutely knocked the stuffing out of us". It's the kind of thing I couldn't imagine a Saints or Leeds coach ever saying - admitting that one bad loss would affect us weeks down the track.

It was a big part of the Steve Price era too. You knew if we had one or two bad losses that was it, we'd win about 2 of the next 10 games. No ability to turn it round.

But when you look at teams like Brian McDermott's Leeds or Shaun Wane's Wigan, usually they'd have a bad month or so of form mid season and their forums would be full of posts from their fans saying McDermott out/Wane out. But you knew that by the time August came round they would be starting off on an ominous winning run.

Now is Sam Burgess's Wire like the softer Cullen and Price teams of the past?
Or are we like McDermott's Leeds and Wane's Wigan?

I'm sure Burgess himself would regard the idea of players going into a funk and feeling sorry for themselves because of previous defeats as being ridiculous.

Tai is a Poundland Ryan Atkins. He has no game smarts. When or how to pass, where to position himself or what lines to run. I really hope we don't offer him another contract. I'd rather develop Lindop and Wrench. While on Wrench, I raiser earlier in the season that I was worried I was seeing zero progress in him knowing how to position himself in defence and it's costing us tries. I still have this opinion.

Wrench just needs to play. He needs a loan move and play 80 minutes in the same position every week. For various reasons, he’s been in and out of the team. But he needs to learn the game. Every match is like he’s been plucked from the stands and thrown in at the deep end. There’s a rough diamond in there, but he needs to get a grip of his role.

Well said Bunkaib

`You could see Salfords plan big kick from Sneyd to Dufty getting him to run back in and he wasn't involved as much in the attack as well as offload and get wide`

Great coaching from Rowley.

Speaking of centres, why hasn't that Bruines been given a run yet?

He has had hamstring injury, and consequently hasn`t played a game yet for our Reserve team.

I saw him at yesterday`s Reserve game and he was walking OK, but not sure where his recovery is up to