Suprised Wigan are favourites to finish top when we crushed them home and away on our way to winning the league last season, with their cup win coming when Morley and Briers were missing. Since then Wigan have lost Tomkins, Hoffman, Deacon and Coley and have replaced them with players of lower quality. They'll still obviously be a top team this year but just surprised by how the bookies have all got Wigan as favourites.

Leeds at 5/1 to win the GF looks the best bet for me.

I think its hard to say who are favourites next year as the teams at the top are hard to assess. /> I think Warrington have the best squad but may be ageing and starting to decline, although I think that will be more an issue in 2013 when some players will have probably left. 2012 will probably be our last year at the current squad's peak. /> Wigan have been a very good team unit under Maguire but I think they were successful through being well coached and without him there is a great unknown, on paper they are a good team not a great team. /> Saints are a mixture between a team of past greats on the decline and some very good young players, I think they have an exciting future but they have lost Cunningham and Graham in the past two years which takes the edge of it, so again....hard to assess. /> Leeds, I think will be there or thereabouts but I don't think they will do what they did last year again. I can see them finishing 4th and everyone saying how dangerous they will be in the playoffs but they won't win again. I guess if I had to pick a likely winner I would say Warrington but not with much confidence.

I think its hard to say who are favourites next year as the teams at the top are hard to assess. /> I think Warrington have the best squad but may be ageing and starting to decline, although I think that will be more an issue in 2013 when some players will have probably left. 2012 will probably be our last year at the current squad's peak. /> Wigan have been a very good team unit under Maguire but I think they were successful through being well coached and without him there is a great unknown, on paper they are a good team not a great team. /> Saints are a mixture between a team of past greats on the decline and some very good young players, I think they have an exciting future but they have lost Cunningham and Graham in the past two years which takes the edge of it, so again....hard to assess. /> Leeds, I think will be there or thereabouts but I don't think they will do what they did last year again. I can see them finishing 4th and everyone saying how dangerous they will be in the playoffs but they won't win again. I guess if I had to pick a likely winner I would say Warrington but not with much confidence.

Would'nt bet ante-post on RL, but if pushed, the 5/2 for league winners would be my bet.I 'd have been looking at 6/4 tbh. /> Wigan have too many departures, Saints have lost their best forward and have a new ground to get used to, whilst Leeds, last season, benefitted from other teams slacking off late in the season. /> The cup comps offer no value, 3 difficult away fixtures, would result in 11/4 and 3/1 looking very stingy. But, quite frankly, Warrington have the least number of negatives of all the SL teams.

Would'nt bet ante-post on RL, but if pushed, the 5/2 for league winners would be my bet.I 'd have been looking at 6/4 tbh. /> Wigan have too many departures, Saints have lost their best forward and have a new ground to get used to, whilst Leeds, last season, benefitted from other teams slacking off late in the season. /> The cup comps offer no value, 3 difficult away fixtures, would result in 11/4 and 3/1 looking very stingy. But, quite frankly, Warrington have the least number of negatives of all the SL teams.

Quote ="Tin Soldier"Leeds at 5/1 to win the GF looks the best bet for me.'" /> he Leeds transition is in full swing now,the 3/4 line is very young,it will take a couple of years find out if this potential has been realised.Next season there will be more leaving.So I think 5/1 is about right

Quote ="Tin Soldier"Leeds at 5/1 to win the GF looks the best bet for me.'" /> he Leeds transition is in full swing now,the 3/4 line is very young,it will take a couple of years find out if this potential has been realised.Next season there will be more leaving.So I think 5/1 is about right

Cheecky treble worth a shot me thinks