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| Good post that, Dropkick Murphy.
As I said elsewhere, you did not outnumber the home fans. You get a better impression when stood well away from the Rooley Avenue terrace. Do a bit of maths...40-odd coaches at 50-ish a coach, plus those who travelled independently. But you sure came reasonably close. Scandalously close. I was totally embarrassed with the Bulls fans' "Turnout" yesterday. I imagine the club was mortified. And as for what the team felt...
Bulls have sod all money for marketing, so that will not have helped. Plus Bradford is a pretty depressed place now financially, and at £20 a head to sit in the stand (as I paid) when you can see it on TV for free must have been a big factor for many people. Those that sit next to me are pretty keen and very long-standing and totally level-headed fans, but they did not go - three adults £60 is a fair bit of money?
Maybe the difference is that there is a good feeling around Warrington, and you guys go to matches with reasonable expectation of winning now. Too many Bulls fans go with expectations of losing - the long run of depressing home defeats last year (we did better on the road) probably scarred many. We also have a soccer club that issued extremely cheap season tickets, and got far and away the biggest crowds in the lowest division as a result (still did pants though) and for sure that took some support away.
The loss to Leeds the week before will not have helped. There were a LOT of "lapsed" fans there, first game for a while, nice day, team in with a chance. Then Leeds played a second half as good as any they had played all year, and many of those "fans" were streaming out with ten to go. You could hear people saying "same old same old" when in fact the only real difference between the sides - as it was on Sunday - was that we have a thinner and in key areas weaker squad, and where injuries to key players (including several like Lynch and Orford who were carrying injuries and should not have played) hit us disproportionately hard. We ran the Champions close, and the cup-holders even closer, which in my book is not a bad performance. But I fear too many lapsed supporters just expect wins. Embarrassing.
But I feel the biggest problem of all is the city itself. I've been castigated by some for saying it, but its dying around us. Just look at the city "centre". The city is dying from the centre. Warrington, by contrast, is a "new town" and the whole place (been there a fair few times generally not just for rugby) always strikes me as confident and looking to the future.
And Rugbychick...the crowd was only a bit worse than I feared - 10k would have been very good given recent turnouts.
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| Quote Adeybull="Adeybull"Good post that, Dropkick Murphy.
As I said elsewhere, you did not outnumber the home fans. You get a better impression when stood well away from the Rooley Avenue terrace. Do a bit of maths...40-odd coaches at 50-ish a coach, plus those who travelled independently. But you sure came reasonably close. Scandalously close. I was totally embarrassed with the Bulls fans' "Turnout" yesterday. I imagine the club was mortified. And as for what the team felt...
Bulls have sod all money for marketing, so that will not have helped. Plus Bradford is a pretty depressed place now financially, and at £20 a head to sit in the stand (as I paid) when you can see it on TV for free must have been a big factor for many people. Those that sit next to me are pretty keen and very long-standing and totally level-headed fans, but they did not go - three adults £60 is a fair bit of money?
Maybe the difference is that there is a good feeling around Warrington, and you guys go to matches with reasonable expectation of winning now. Too many Bulls fans go with expectations of losing - the long run of depressing home defeats last year (we did better on the road) probably scarred many. We also have a soccer club that issued extremely cheap season tickets, and got far and away the biggest crowds in the lowest division as a result (still did pants though) and for sure that took some support away.
The loss to Leeds the week before will not have helped. There were a LOT of "lapsed" fans there, first game for a while, nice day, team in with a chance. Then Leeds played a second half as good as any they had played all year, and many of those "fans" were streaming out with ten to go. You could hear people saying "same old same old" when in fact the only real difference between the sides - as it was on Sunday - was that we have a thinner and in key areas weaker squad, and where injuries to key players (including several like Lynch and Orford who were carrying injuries and should not have played) hit us disproportionately hard. We ran the Champions close, and the cup-holders even closer, which in my book is not a bad performance. But I fear too many lapsed supporters just expect wins. Embarrassing.
But I feel the biggest problem of all is the city itself. I've been castigated by some for saying it, but its dying around us. Just look at the city "centre". The city is dying from the centre. Warrington, by contrast, is a "new town" and the whole place (been there a fair few times generally not just for rugby) always strikes me as confident and looking to the future.
And Rugbychick...the crowd was only a bit worse than I feared - 10k would have been very good given recent turnouts.'"
Excellent post. Very interesting to read - particularly about the City's recent fortunes - such a shame as the City Centre has a lot of interesting historic buildings.
I preusme the fact that it was the start of half term and that at times it looked like the heavens were going to open didn't help.
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| Quote Adeybull="Adeybull"And Rugbychick...the crowd was only a bit worse than I feared - 10k would have been very good given recent turnouts.'"
To be honest I don't really follow Bradford's crowd number so yesterday was a genuine shock. 15 mins before kick off we were all looking round at each other, asking where the Bradford fans were. It's a real shame that the fans have fallen away so quickly and I'm sure the reasons you've posted above hold true for many of those that have stopped attending. This is something that concerns me about Wire fans too. As Dropkick said: we've a lot of fans who had materialised out of nowhere since we won something. I just hope they don't all fade away if we don't repeat the success this year.
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| adeybull i do feel for you we have a new ground purpose built and all stands are covered, you ground is steeped in history but its old and tired i think thats some of the problems aswell and £20 nicker to sit down in that stand is a bit much we only paid £12 at the galpharm i think with your current finacial plight you have to move to valley parade
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| Quote Ewwenorfolk="Ewwenorfolk"Doesn't surprise me. Our home support was dire today. Seems they all thought we were going to get a pasting too.
Their loss, it was a great, exciting game to watch.
Is there always that thug section of your crowd though?? There was no need for them trying to provoke a group of Bradford lads at the end of the match. You'd just got through to the semis ffs!'"
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