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| Quote Thelonius="Thelonius"The RFL, UK Sport and wigan wouldn't go public with this if they had a major doubt regarding the source of the Benzoylecgonine being anything other than Cocaine.
I'm sure that someone would have spoken to Hock, and if he said "But I've been taking [ix[/i on perscription from my GP" and [ix[/i could result in trace elements of Benzoylecgonine, then the news would have been kept from the media pending further investigation.
Obviously Gareth Hock is innocent until the second sample is tested and procedures take their course, but I don't think the news would have been released now if there was any chance of the RFL etc looking like idiots (and probably being sued by Hock) in a few weeks time.'"
I don't think that there was any possibility of this case being kept quiet regardless of what the possible source of the metabolite might be. The RFL could not allow him to continue to play where there was even the slightest doubt.
He has not yet been found guilty of taking Cocaine at this stage, but that element of proof is not required to suspend a player, only suspicion. | | |
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| Quote Foz="Foz"The one where he played keepy uppy with that Fellas head.'"
well, that's completely different, there isn't a global testing association for cock tards with violent incidents, it's a criminal matter and the club have reacted as what they see fit towards their employee, if hock's B sample is confirmed as positive he gets banned as part of the agreement with WADA, it's not wigan's decision, they may decide to stand by him, they may decide to terminate his contract, but it won't be their decision whether he get's an enforced holiday or not.
now, before you borrow your missus' soapbox(  ) i'm not saying i agree with it as kicking the crap out of someone to within an inch of their life is a much worse act than reacreational narcotics, but again, its not the clubs decision on this one. | | | |
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| Quote Tony Catsmith="Tony Catsmith"well, that's completely different, there isn't a global testing association for cock tards with violent incidents, it's a criminal matter and the club have reacted as what they see fit towards their employee, if hock's B sample is confirmed as positive he gets banned as part of the agreement with WADA, it's not wigan's decision, they may decide to stand by him, they may decide to terminate his contract, but it won't be their decision whether he get's an enforced holiday or not.
now, before you borrow your missus' soapbox(
) i'm not saying i agree with it as kicking the crap out of someone to within an inch of their life is a much worse act than reacreational narcotics, but again, its not the clubs decision on this one.'" Theres an argument that in reality Gareth Hock has only harmed himself where as Cockayne could has killed a man. CCTV footage is proof equal to that of a drug test if not more so and both situations are illegal anyway
By the way .  The amount of time ive said "are you STILL on the same post?!?!?!" | | |
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Is it today that we find out the results of his 'B' sample?
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| Quote howks1030="howks1030"Is it today that we find out the results of his 'B' sample?'"
Doubt we will find out today but it's today that the results are due. | | | |
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Quote Latchford Wolvesfan="Latchford Wolvesfan"I'm not defending him but
He hasn't been tested positive for Cocaine, he has tested positive for Benzoylecgonine which is found in cocaine.
However upon doing a little research on the substance i came across this:
"Small amounts may be traced back to certain OTC (over the counter) medications, after having been metabolised in the liver".
"Benzoylecgonine is used as the main pharmaceutical ingredient in the prescription drug Esterom, a topical solution used for the relief of muscle pain".
So depending on how much substance has been found in the test then this could pose as a legitimate excuse.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzoylecgonine'"
Training as a pharmacist i know a lot about substances in sport. the said substance is not available over the counter at a pharmacy in any medication. Second the said medication that he could of taken is only available in the U.S. And thirdly the club are licensed to provide medication for the players as they have physio's, doctor's & pharmacist working for them. So from what i can gather either the club have imported the drug from America and used it or he will be tested positive for the use of Cocaine
the source that is available to me is www.uksport.gov.uk/did
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Quote Latchford Wolvesfan="Latchford Wolvesfan"I'm not defending him but
He hasn't been tested positive for Cocaine, he has tested positive for Benzoylecgonine which is found in cocaine.
However upon doing a little research on the substance i came across this:
"Small amounts may be traced back to certain OTC (over the counter) medications, after having been metabolised in the liver".
"Benzoylecgonine is used as the main pharmaceutical ingredient in the prescription drug Esterom, a topical solution used for the relief of muscle pain".
So depending on how much substance has been found in the test then this could pose as a legitimate excuse.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzoylecgonine'"
Training as a pharmacist i know a lot about substances in sport. the said substance is not available over the counter at a pharmacy in any medication. Second the said medication that he could of taken is only available in the U.S. And thirdly the club are licensed to provide medication for the players as they have physio's, doctor's & pharmacist working for them. So from what i can gather either the club have imported the drug from America and used it or he will be tested positive for the use of Cocaine
the source that is available to me is www.uksport.gov.uk/did
this has a list of all prohibited and non-prohibited drugs for use in sports | |
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) i'm not saying i agree with it as kicking the crap out of someone to within an inch of their life is a much worse act than reacreational narcotics, but again, its not the clubs decision on this one.
