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Quote ="the red fusilier" ">www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/sensational-salford-move-ellery-hanley-8138423'"
It could be interpreted as the tail wagging the dog with Harris believing he has the right to choose his own boss?
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Quote ="the red fusilier" ">www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/sensational-salford-move-ellery-hanley-8138423'"
It could be interpreted as the tail wagging the dog with Harris believing he has the right to choose his own boss?
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Quote ="theredshed"Another shout could be Jordan Thompson at Hull. Played for England Academy and can play in the backs or the ">pack.'"
Decent player is Thomspon, very strong runner, did a very good job at prop for us when we were short, but a spell in the backrow and he could be a very good backrower.
Not a player that would demand all this hype though.
Whiting could be an option.
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Quote ="theredshed"Another shout could be Jordan Thompson at Hull. Played for England Academy and can play in the backs or the ">pack.'"
Decent player is Thomspon, very strong runner, did a very good job at prop for us when we were short, but a spell in the backrow and he could be a very good backrower.
Not a player that would demand all this hype though.
Whiting could be an option.
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If it is Chris Ashton he wouldn't count on the cap either (at least not for the first year), which makes it even more of a possibility.
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Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"If it is Chris Ashton he wouldn't count on the cap either (at least not for the first year), which makes it even more of a ">possibility.'"
Where would he fit in the team though? On the wing ahead of Johnson and BJB? I doubt he's better than either of them. In the centre? Has he player there before?
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Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"If it is Chris Ashton he wouldn't count on the cap either (at least not for the first year), which makes it even more of a ">possibility.'"
Where would he fit in the team though? On the wing ahead of Johnson and BJB? I doubt he's better than either of them. In the centre? Has he player there before?
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Quote ="Red John"Could also be interpreted as the evil meglomaniac Marwan not just riding roughshod over the wishes of everyone else - as most people like to believe he does - and listening to his coach's ">opinion.'"
I can't speak for Marwan but if I valued Iestyn's opinion I would have certainly asked him about Hanley, prior to arranging for him to fly over from Spain for a meeting/interview.
The MEN article I believe reflects a little negatively on the club, MK, Harris and does Hanley's future job prospects in rugby league no favours either. A pointless story in my opinion that highlights the owner and CEO are not communicating fully with the head coach.
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Quote ="Red John"Could also be interpreted as the evil meglomaniac Marwan not just riding roughshod over the wishes of everyone else - as most people like to believe he does - and listening to his coach's ">opinion.'"
I can't speak for Marwan but if I valued Iestyn's opinion I would have certainly asked him about Hanley, prior to arranging for him to fly over from Spain for a meeting/interview.
The MEN article I believe reflects a little negatively on the club, MK, Harris and does Hanley's future job prospects in rugby league no favours either. A pointless story in my opinion that highlights the owner and CEO are not communicating fully with the head coach.
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Quote ="theredshed"I can't speak for Marwan but if I valued Iestyn's opinion I would have certainly asked him about Hanley, prior to arranging for him to fly over from Spain for a meeting/interview.
The MEN article I believe reflects a little negatively on the club, MK, Harris and does Hanley's future job prospects in rugby league no favours either. A pointless story in my opinion that highlights the owner and CEO are not communicating fully with the head ">coach.'"
Or a reporter who is scratching about for a story.
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Quote ="theredshed"I can't speak for Marwan but if I valued Iestyn's opinion I would have certainly asked him about Hanley, prior to arranging for him to fly over from Spain for a meeting/interview.
The MEN article I believe reflects a little negatively on the club, MK, Harris and does Hanley's future job prospects in rugby league no favours either. A pointless story in my opinion that highlights the owner and CEO are not communicating fully with the head ">coach.'"
Or a reporter who is scratching about for a story.
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Quote ="Original Salford City Red"Or a reporter who is scratching about for a ">story.'"
What Mr Pulitzer?
Surely not, he is the very paragon of of excellent journalism.
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Quote ="Original Salford City Red"Or a reporter who is scratching about for a ">story.'"
What Mr Pulitzer?
Surely not, he is the very paragon of of excellent journalism.
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Quote ="Original Salford City Red"Or a reporter who is scratching about for a ">story.'"
The story seems too specific for it not to be true.
Surely what the club needs right now is a period of stability,and Harris had every right to object when asked for his opinion.
Most of the team has now played a fair amount together,integrating Dobson is a great challenge to have,so let's see how Harris performs before shaking the tree again.
Hanley has many great qualities but would probably have been wrong for us right now.
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Quote ="Original Salford City Red"Or a reporter who is scratching about for a ">story.'"
The story seems too specific for it not to be true.
Surely what the club needs right now is a period of stability,and Harris had every right to object when asked for his opinion.
Most of the team has now played a fair amount together,integrating Dobson is a great challenge to have,so let's see how Harris performs before shaking the tree again.
Hanley has many great qualities but would probably have been wrong for us right now.
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Quote ="Bonita Red".....Hanley has many great qualities but would probably have been wrong for us right ">now.'"
As a player yes, but I struggle to understand what "great qualities" he has evere demonstrated as a manager, director or administrator.
What on earth was the Doc thinking?
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Quote ="Bonita Red".....Hanley has many great qualities but would probably have been wrong for us right ">now.'"
As a player yes, but I struggle to understand what "great qualities" he has evere demonstrated as a manager, director or administrator.
What on earth was the Doc thinking?
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I agree.
I was being polite !
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Or...
British...[itick[/i
Played wing...[itick[/i
Can play second row or centre...[itick[/i
Probably on holiday have been part of one of the recent international squads...[itick[/i
A newsworthy signing...[itick[/i
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Or ..... Wigan AND wing ....
Martin Offiah is coming out of retirement.... just a pity we won't be playing Bradford or we could look forward to another 1 pointer!!
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Quote ="BartonFlyer"As a player yes, but I struggle to understand what "great qualities" he has evere demonstrated as a manager, director or administrator.
What on earth was the Doc thinking?'"
I am a bit hacked off with all and sundry 'bagging' Ellery Hanley.
He won things while a coach at St Helens.
His putative arrogance didn't prevent him dropping into the lowest tier to coach Doncaster;they were promoted,were they not?
I believe his son is on the Academy books at Salford.
Dr K wanted Flanagan from Cronulla Sharks shortly after Harris was appointed.This would suggest that the much-maligned owner - not only maligned by opposition supporters - wants the position of Director of Football to be filled.
The intricacies of the position and devolved powers may have been the stumbling block.
The former owner of Doncaster - and friend of Hanley while he was coaching - was Craig Harrison,who left to set up as an agent.
He has the Show Me The Money UK agency and has a fair number of players on his books.
This is his Twitter - https://twitter.com/SMTMUK It seems the website is down.
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Quote ="BartonFlyer"As a player yes, but I struggle to understand what "great qualities" he has evere demonstrated as a manager, director or administrator.
What on earth was the Doc thinking?'"
I am a bit hacked off with all and sundry 'bagging' Ellery Hanley.
He won things while a coach at St Helens.
His putative arrogance didn't prevent him dropping into the lowest tier to coach Doncaster;they were promoted,were they not?
I believe his son is on the Academy books at Salford.
Dr K wanted Flanagan from Cronulla Sharks shortly after Harris was appointed.This would suggest that the much-maligned owner - not only maligned by opposition supporters - wants the position of Director of Football to be filled.
The intricacies of the position and devolved powers may have been the stumbling block.
The former owner of Doncaster - and friend of Hanley while he was coaching - was Craig Harrison,who left to set up as an agent.
He has the Show Me The Money UK agency and has a fair number of players on his books.
This is his Twitter - https://twitter.com/SMTMUK It seems the website is down.
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I've nothing against Hanley either, or Harris. Although I don't think Harris would fancy anyone breathing down his neck who has a good understanding of the the game. (No disrespect intended) If Harris is savvy he will want to influence the choice of FD knowing that person may feel obliged to show him some loyalty, if or when the chips are down.
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The question I'd be asking if I was running a business that had just made a £5 million loss,and was failing with its current business plan of increasing crowd numbers significantly,is what would a football director bring to the party to justify the extra cost ??
We have a well qualified head coach,a CEO,finance director plus an owner who is happily opinionated and hands on.
Why add another layer of management ?
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| Quote ="Bonita Red"The question I'd be asking if I was running a business that had just made a £5 million loss,and was failing with its current business plan of increasing crowd numbers significantly,is what would a football director bring to the party to justify the extra cost ??
We have a well qualified head coach,a CEO,finance director plus an owner who is happily opinionated and hands on.
Why add another layer of management ?'"
Good point do we need one? If Harris is honest and has a good working relationship with the Doc is the added expense necessary? Although with Marwan actively pursuing a potential candidate it seems the Doc thinks he does. |
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Hasn't the Hanley thing got its own thread?
This one seems to be veering off...
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Quote ="theredshed"Good point do we need one? If Harris is honest and has a good working relationship with the Doc is the added expense necessary? Although with Marwan actively pursuing a potential candidate it seems the Doc thinks he ">does.'"
Yes,that's right.
Apart from the cost,I can't see anything but downside in an extra body looking over Harris' shoulder.
The new guy would presumably have his own view on new signings,just at a time when we seem to have a coherent plan on the playing side.
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Quote ="theredshed"Good point do we need one? If Harris is honest and has a good working relationship with the Doc is the added expense necessary? Although with Marwan actively pursuing a potential candidate it seems the Doc thinks he ">does.'"
Yes,that's right.
Apart from the cost,I can't see anything but downside in an extra body looking over Harris' shoulder.
The new guy would presumably have his own view on new signings,just at a time when we seem to have a coherent plan on the playing side.
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Quote ="Bonita Red"Yes,that's right.
Apart from the cost,I can't see anything but downside in an extra body looking over Harris' shoulder.
The new guy would presumably have his own view on new signings,just at a time when we seem to have a coherent plan on the playing ">side.'"
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Quote ="Bonita Red"Yes,that's right.
Apart from the cost,I can't see anything but downside in an extra body looking over Harris' shoulder.
The new guy would presumably have his own view on new signings,just at a time when we seem to have a coherent plan on the playing ">side.'"
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This doesn't necessarily correspond to all the clues the doc's given us, but most would suspect there's a few red herrings been put out there. Anyway, what about Jon Wilkin? Although mostly a forward he's played in the halves recently, his profile within the game is still fairly large and Saints have enough quality young players coming through to cover his departure.
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For all we know the red herring could be the player doesn't exist and it's simply marketing propaganda to encourage more people to commit earlier to buying a season ticket. Didn't I read somewhere recently that the club are 25% down on season ticket sales compared to this time last year?
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According to the Sydney Morning Herald we are about to sign Terry Campese.
Which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Unless we're ignoring the non-fed rule, why?
He's ageing, has knees made out of boiled sweets, and he'll be out sixteenth HB for next season.
I really hope this is just an agent massaging facts to get a better deal elsewhere.
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Quote ="TheButcher"According to the Sydney Morning Herald we are about to sign Terry Campese.
Which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Unless we're ignoring the non-fed rule, why?
He's ageing, has knees made out of boiled sweets, and he'll be out sixteenth HB for next season.
I really hope this is just an agent massaging facts to get a better deal ">elsewhere.'"
I'd be totally flabbergasted if this happens.
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Quote ="TheButcher"According to the Sydney Morning Herald we are about to sign Terry Campese.
Which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Unless we're ignoring the non-fed rule, why?
He's ageing, has knees made out of boiled sweets, and he'll be out sixteenth HB for next season.
I really hope this is just an agent massaging facts to get a better deal ">elsewhere.'"
I'd be totally flabbergasted if this happens.
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This would annoy me as i'm a massive Theo Fages fan! How do you keep 4 quality half backs happy??
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