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| Quote GT="GT"Big difference between realistic expectations towards on the pitch matters and posting constant drivel on different threads about how the club's going to hell in a hand basket when you're in no position to judge nor comment.
I have had a reality check. Salford are not a big club and without the new stadium and any other large cash injection we're never going to be realistically competing for major trophies. However, I do realise that this isn't the fault of JW or any other of the Salford directors. Something that has been explained in this thread and something like you and the others agreeing with you and calling the rest of us "s" seem to ignore and can't seem to handle.
The directors cannot pump their own money into Salford year on year, with no return, without bankrupting themselves.
There is no one out there willing to come in and invest. JW has tried to find someone. No one was willing to come forward and take the club on.
How is any of that his fault? It isn't, but you're still happy to whinge and cry because we don't win trophies. Boo hoo. 99% of rugby league clubs will never win trophies, but there's plenty of them out there who would swap places with us today if they could.
And, ladies and gentlemen, we have it in one.'"
I agree completley, The Salford board will hardly make any thing at all and it doesn't help that our gates are rubbish. If we get into the new stadium and that's a big IF we would still need sufficent amount of supporters to make a decent amount of money plus big sponsers.
if only a sugar daddy would take us over
I can honestly say i have never expected us to challenge, for me watching salford win a game is good enough. it's not to bad being an under dog and winning games your not expected to it gives me the best feeling ever, people just need a reality check
sorry for going off on a tangent, had a moment
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| If we dont make a go of it in the next two seasons were fooked anyway! Why not spend a bit extra and we'll hopefully win more games and make an impression on the rfl. If were challenging for the play offs then surely we should get another franchise? If we go down, kiss goodbye to JW and to our club.
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| i've just read that the cap is staying the same for next season off the superleague website. Also it says that players who have played for 10 years or more at the same club, half their salary doesn't count on the cap. So that effects alker and littler?
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| Quote Jaymc9="Jaymc9"i've just read that the cap is staying the same for next season off the superleague website. Also it says that players who have played for 10 years or more at the same club, half their salary doesn't count on the cap. So that effects alker and littler?'"
Cant see Littler being with us next year.
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| Quote Jaymc9="Jaymc9"Why not spend a bit extra'" and, seeing as you repeatedly seem to ignore everyone pointing out that there aren't any magic pots of money, where exactly is this extra coming from?
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| Quote red13pjb="red13pjb"Terry O'connor for one. Paul Groves left us and immediately got in the GB team. Admittedley it didn't work out at saints for him!
I'm sure you can think of a few more.'"
Quote red13pjb="mmp"i cant think of any promising young talents who've left us for bigger and better things?
McAvoy to Bradford maybe?
Stephen Myler has maybe gone on to better things but he wouldnt have made it in RL anyway...'"
Ged Byrne to Wigan in 87 (ish) 
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| Quote king of the shed="king of the shed"Ged Byrne to Wigan in 87 (ish)
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I'll see your Ged Byrne & raise you a David Stephenson (again to Wigan)
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| Quote king of the shed="king of the shed"Ged Byrne to Wigan in 87 (ish)
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Chico beat you to it...further up in the thread 
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| Quote mmp="mmp"Chico beat you to it...further up in the thread
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Fooker, that'll teach me.
Ok can I have Colin Whitfield?
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| Quote king of the shed="king of the shed"Fooker, that'll teach me.
Ok can I have Colin Whitfield?'"
I've only read the last page of this thread and cant be d to look if he's been mentioned but I'll have Andy Gregory then, left us for much bigger and better things than anyone could have ever dreamt to imagine!
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| Quote The Black Cat="The Black Cat"I've only read the last page of this thread and cant be d to look if he's been mentioned but I'll have Andy Gregory then, left us for much bigger and better things than anyone could have ever dreamt to imagine!'"
But AG only played as ANO I believe - never actually signed for Salford? Now whether he should have is another question entirely!!
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| Quote baldfella="baldfella"and, seeing as you repeatedly seem to ignore everyone pointing out that there aren't any magic pots of money, where exactly is this extra coming from?'"
Apparently the Easter Bunny, Father Christmas and the Tooth Fairy are putting a takeover consortium together, there'll be an announcement next week.
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| Quote baldfella="baldfella"and, seeing as you repeatedly seem to ignore everyone pointing out that there aren't any magic pots of money, where exactly is this extra coming from?'"
well we always seem to find a bit extra most season's bringing loan signing's in?
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| Quote Jaymc9="Jaymc9"well we always seem to find a bit extra most season's bringing loan signing's in?'"
so say thankyou and stop whining...
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| take it everyone is happy to just be an average team who never challenges for trophies then?
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| Quote Jaymc9="Jaymc9"take it everyone is happy to just be an average team who never challenges for trophies then?'"
not me i want to watch a team that is up there season after season fighting for major honours , and not letting there best players go for no amount of money
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| Quote Jaymc9="Jaymc9"take it everyone is happy to just be an average team who never challenges for trophies then?'"
Indeed, hence our songsheet;
"[iAveragione, averagione, are we, are we, are we[/i"
"[iSo come on Salford Reds, come on Salford Reds, we're gonna score an average number of tries, we're gonna score an average number of tries[/i"
"[iI see the Salford Reds settling in mid-table, I see the Reds going nowhere[/i"
"[iAnd it's Salford Rugby, Salford Rugby FC, we're by far the most average team, the World has ever seen[/i"
"[iQue sera, sera, whatever will be, will be, we're going to average see, que sera, sera[/i"

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| Quote Jaymc9="Jaymc9"take it everyone is happy to just be an average team who never challenges for trophies then?'"
you've no solution though.
quite simply (and it is really this simple so please take it in), the money isn't there to spend - and our directors already spend what they can and there is no magic pot to dip into. stop whining on its boring.
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| Quote Jaymc9="Jaymc9"take it everyone is happy
to just be an average team who never challenges for trophies then?'"
Its all down to capital as many on here totally realise. Some dont sadly. If Salford had more capital then better players would come and crowds increase and then more money in the system etc. Thats how simple it is but ...........finding the capital is the tricky one.
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| Quote Early Bath="Early Bath"finding the capital is the tricky one.'"
Not especially, it's straight down the M1
Seriously, you're spot on.
How the hell people on here expect the club to "show some ambition" (ie. splash the cash), "put their neck on the line" (ie. splash the cash), "put their hand in their pocket" (ie. splash the cash) or "compete for major honours" (ie. splash the cash) when we get an average home support of about 3500 is totally beyond me?!
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| Quote Fatboys Limb="Fatboys Limb"Not especially, it's straight down the M1
Seriously, you're spot on.
How the hell people on here expect the club to "show some ambition" (ie. splash the cash), "put their neck on the line" (ie. splash the cash), "put their hand in their pocket" (ie. splash the cash) or "compete for major honours" (ie. splash the cash) when we get an average home support of about 3500 is totally beyond me?!'"
thats easy ?????????
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take a gamble SPLASH THE CASH
THE RED DEVILS
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| Quote salfords no 1="salfords no 1"thats easy ?????????
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take a gamble SPLASH THE CASH
THE RED DEVILS'"
What Cash?
Are you dipping into your pocket to provide it?
Will you guarantee a loan for the club?
Come on folks - get real - the whole Rugby League industry in this country is struggling - sport is an industry and there just isn't enough interest in RL for it ever to lift itself to a level where it can generate the kind of income that is going to sustain a league of top quality full time professionals.
Maybe it's my natural pessimism, or maybe it's too many glasses of red, but when I look at the history of RL over the last 10 years or so and the great names that are now just also-rans (Rochdale, Featherstone, Hunslet, Swinton, Oldham, Widnes and on and on) I really struggle to see a bright future for the sport that we all love.
See you all on the terraces next week (if I haven't cut my throat with the rusty razor by then) !!
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| Quote BartonFlyer="BartonFlyer"What Cash?
Are you dipping into your pocket to provide it?
Will you guarantee a loan for the club?
Come on folks - get real - the whole Rugby League industry in this country is struggling - sport is an industry and there just isn't enough interest in RL for it ever to lift itself to a level where it can generate the kind of income that is going to sustain a league of top quality full time professionals.
Maybe it's my natural pessimism, or maybe it's too many glasses of red, but when I look at the history of RL over the last 10 years or so and the great names that are now just also-rans (Rochdale, Featherstone, Hunslet, Swinton, Oldham, Widnes and on and on) I really struggle to see a bright future for the sport that we all love.
See you all on the terraces next week (if I haven't cut my throat with the rusty razor by then) !!'"
the cash he is spending on the museum would do , either make your mind up mr wilky , do you want us to be right up there ? or do you want us to be a feeder club , i mr wilky thank you for what you have done for this great club , but feel we the fans are being treated like mushrooms at times , ie news on the stadium ,offers for richie , who s staying , whos going , lies about pre- season trip , just be honest , thats all we ask , we are all salford and will continue to follow the reds home and away
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| Quote salfords no 1="salfords no 1"the cash he is spending on the museum would do
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you simply dont get how the world works do you?
JW has been keeping the club afloat for years...he is able to do that by making sound investments in other areas. salford rlfc is a sunk cost and we're lucky, and should be thankful, that he continues to sink money in!
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