dont shoot the messanger. come on guys dont tell me you dont believe the geordie (salfords greatest ever loyal fan even though he only appeared 2 years ago)

MOST fans would rather get the questions answered from John in person rather than some "EDITED" comments from any newspapers .

Think everybody knows what you say & what gets printed in newspapers is often very misguided & sometimes very removed from what was actually said in the interview.

Has it not occurred that what was printed in the Advertiser a couple of weeks ago may have not been what was actually quoted to them??????

Maybe the editor of the asaid paper is a fan of another club /doesn't like Salford or many other reasons & decided to run the story to put our club in a bad light???????



As I have said, John will come down to answer questions .a.s.a.p so you will just have to wait.

John has always been honest and open, BUT like many fans I feel let down at the moment by the lack of real trustworthy news from the club. We have an Official web site which could be used.



As for Forever Reds, John and the trust have established a great relationship and hope this continues, if you can't attend Shirl/Billysmum always asks for questions and does a detailed write up after so it shouldn't be a problem.

Exactly!



The truths better than the lies, just let us all know whats going on now! If there's no stadium to be had so be it I don't really care just spill the beans for the sake of clarity please!

Maybe there is a lack of official news because there is a chance the stadium may fall through completely and the club are working to prevent this. There is no point announcing that and recieving a backlash (from Widnes and Leigh especially) until there is no chance it is going to be built.



Thats the worst case scenario anyway.

Thats what I've been saying as well RW.

looks like JW has his hands full with his proposed hotel at Buile Hill as well.As reported in the MEN and Advertiser today.

Look, we all accept John has done a fantastic job, and that his honesty at Forever Reds is to be commended.

The consensus,though,is that there should be something on the Clubs website.

That would overcome BBM doubts about the Advertisers alleged 'spin'.

Do we really feel they are bad guys simply because they have said something the Club doesn't like.

As Ferder said at the start,I think,nothing in that article has been shown to be wrong or even challenged!

It depends on what info you want. Remember, the official website is the official receptacle for the club's communiques; official being the operative word. Let’s say, for example, the Chairman issues an open letter to the supporters on the website. What’s it going to say? Probably that the club are extremely confident Peel will deliver a world class stadium. If that’s what you want to hear, then you’ve got nothing to worry about.



Will such a letter include information about whether the new stadium will generate enough money for Salford to be a Super League force? Will it include information about whether a standing terrace will be included in the design? Will it include any other information not already brought to attention by the fans? Maybe. Maybe not. This is the benefit of being able to get people such as John Wilkinson down to a Forever Reds meeting — an open forum. Your questions get asked, and you find out whether you get the answers.

I wonder when the artist impression of our new stadium over at Barton will be ready for us all to see ?

Not really ar*sed about seeing an artists impression of the new stadium to be honest because it'll most probaly be changed again, super league 4055 might be a more realistic target date

I agree to a certain extent, but I'm more then 90% sure that at FR JW will spill us the same the crap he has been for years.



" we're still on course, its still going to be the most iconic stadium in RL blah blah".



I'd never though I'd see the day when I have a pop at wilky like I have just done and knowing him personally it hurts, but I just think the whole thing is a farce and anyone who doesn't needs to take their rose tinted specs of just for a minute.



Rant over for now.

At least, if you can ask the question personally, you’ll get some sort of answer.







Or rather: NewsCorpafone Interplanetary Mega League XVII. Battling to the death by then, like [iThe Running Man[/i or [iClimbing For Dollars[/i.

Another depressing thread on this stadium. I think Lord Lucan will turn up first



or

him from the manics

or

osama

or

shergar.



Maybe elvis ?

I don't mean to rubbish JW, as we are grateful for his great efforts over the years since 1982, but as I have said before he is not above all and should not be treated as if he's God.



But I think those fans who have been protecting JW over the years against those of us who question him, have no gone quiet? Why is that? DO they also feel let down, after being promised a great future for the club? The egg is truly on the clubs face. If this stadium (of any kind) never happens, we don't deserve SL, and I sense the club would lose it's franchise come 2011.



It's time JW, Trish, Paul Mc, Tarry (who I have always found to talk b/s) and anyone else, came to us loyal fans who have dug deep to help keep this club supported and give a HONEST response to this issue ASAP. Otherwise, I can see a very poor support for us next season and low crowds at home!

I think JW will come out with the latest ppositions soon Gan. Basically the Administration changed the Tables & Chairs of the deal. I think you will find - which is obvious of course - that I think Adam has gone and replaced by `Grey Suits` from Peel. These `Grey Suits` aren`t necessarily close to the Reds and therefore communication is the issue and obviously news of current position isn`t always at hand for John.



Its clear to me that a Stadium will be built ready for 2010 but not to the spec we were shown at the start and John has already confirmed this. At no time has John said that its not going to happen and rest assured as he is a man of immense integrity I feel he is certain to come up with the goods and on time.

well put early bath.

WELL SAID "Early Bath"





The sooner works starts on the site over at Barton the better and perhaps then and only then will the snipers crawl back in to the dug outs.



I am really looking forward to going to our new stadium and the sooner we see workmen on the site all this SHIT from fans from other clubs will stop.



SALFORD CITY REDS WILL BE PLAYING IN THE ENGAGE SUPER LEAGUE IN A NEW STADIUM IN 2010.....



THE FUTURE IS BRIGHT....



THE FUTURE IS SALFORD CITY REDS....

Arn't these 'Grey Suits' the one's who have been you main shirt sponser for the past few years.

Salford are sponsored by the Trafford Centre not Peel Holdings PLC. The `Grey Suits` haven`t been seen - to my knowledge - behind the counter at Selfridges there. I have a pal who is with Northern Rock but he doesnt know who is going to take over from Kevin Keegan at Newcastle.

Isn't one the same as the other. The parent company for Trafford Centre is .............................................!

If Peel Holdings are only interested in us for the short term why have they put a large amount of sponsorship money into the SCR for several years?



According to sources within the club PH put in £250000 each year and they pay it up front before the season starts.



If the Stadium delay is getting us down, how must John Wikinson and Howard Clague and others be feeling? They are into it big time we are not and I say this as a long term supporter,shareholder,lottery member etc.

well said

I have to say I've been a little confused all along on the subject of the stadium. I never really understood how the money to do it was going to be raised.



However, I'm willing to believe John Wilkinson when he says it will happen. The guy's had plenty of opportunity to walk away in the past but he didn't. He must love the club an awful lot to put all the time, effort and money into it that he has done.



On balance, I tend to the view that a new stadium (maybe not the stadium) will be built but 2010 is looking very ambitious now.



The thing I worry about most is ownership of the stadium. I though under the old plans that the club would own it. I'm afraid now that it might belong to Peel and we would just be tenants. If this were the case, I could imagine Sale trying to grease their way in somehow. That is just too nauseating to contemplate. I'd be very happy for somebody in the know to come on here and tell me I'm worrying needlessly.

i'm not one of the doom and gloom merchants, but to be honest, 250k a year for a few years will be small potatoes to peel if they think it is what will get their port salford and racecourse projects off the ground