Bookies only giving us 10-12 start, nowhere enough imo.

A great many of the culprits are on my sig below.

Good post, Red John, but: Quote ="Red John"As for the 'always the victim' conspiracy theory stuff, I just cringe when I see it on here. It would be interesting to know if the people who think that way are also followers of Manchester United and have picked up the Alex Ferguson habit of seeing unfairness everywhere except when they're the beneficiaries of ">it.'" I doubt football allegiances have anything to do with it. Some people just see themselves/their club as victims regardless. I know a few people who don't even follow football who've acted like that about Salford. I think it's an inevitable part of being down the bottom for years on end. Supporters of all "smaller" clubs start to think that way across all sports. To continue the United analogy, look at the amount of people who've claimed they never get a decision at OT. It's a siege mentality that comes from supporting an unsuccessful club. Then again, it's also a rugby league supporter trait to think that every official is turd and out to get you. Have a gander at the RL Meltdown account on Twitter...

Good post, Red John, but: Quote ="Red John"As for the 'always the victim' conspiracy theory stuff, I just cringe when I see it on here. It would be interesting to know if the people who think that way are also followers of Manchester United and have picked up the Alex Ferguson habit of seeing unfairness everywhere except when they're the beneficiaries of ">it.'" I doubt football allegiances have anything to do with it. Some people just see themselves/their club as victims regardless. I know a few people who don't even follow football who've acted like that about Salford. I think it's an inevitable part of being down the bottom for years on end. Supporters of all "smaller" clubs start to think that way across all sports. To continue the United analogy, look at the amount of people who've claimed they never get a decision at OT. It's a siege mentality that comes from supporting an unsuccessful club. Then again, it's also a rugby league supporter trait to think that every official is turd and out to get you. Have a gander at the RL Meltdown account on Twitter...

Some great posting and some real perspective.



On a positive note I have seen larger numbers of Salford supporters having a pre/après match beer in new West Didsbury (Monton) which is a good thing. I don't know how this visibility has been reflected in your gates, but, there is certainly a little bit of a buzz going on as far as I can make out.



A strong finish this year rather than the season petering out would be good for your club and good for the league we need more strong teams for a better comp

Quote ="GT"Good post, Red John, but: Quote ="Red John"As for the 'always the victim' conspiracy theory stuff, I just cringe when I see it on here. It would be interesting to know if the people who think that way are also followers of Manchester United and have picked up the Alex Ferguson habit of seeing unfairness everywhere except when they're the beneficiaries of ">it.'" I doubt football allegiances have anything to do with it. Some people just see themselves/their club as victims regardless. I know a few people who don't even follow football who've acted like that about Salford. I think it's an inevitable part of being down the bottom for years on end. Supporters of all "smaller" clubs start to think that way across all sports. To continue the United analogy, look at the amount of people who've claimed they never get a decision at OT. It's a siege mentality that comes from supporting an unsuccessful club. Then again, it's also a rugby league supporter trait to think that every official is turd and out to get you. Have a gander at the RL Meltdown account on Twitter...'" I mentioned Untied because I think this was where it changed from being something the more deluded fans did into something that was almost club policy. It seems Alex Ferguson rarely saw United lose a game fairly, but only because of dark forces behind the scenes. Apologists would try to explain it with the anodyne "Fergie's mind games", when the real explanation - the one they never used - was "Ferguson's being a dick again". It makes me wonder if this was a tipping point and why we seem to see the conspiracies more often nowadays.

Quote ="GT"Good post, Red John, but: Quote ="Red John"As for the 'always the victim' conspiracy theory stuff, I just cringe when I see it on here. It would be interesting to know if the people who think that way are also followers of Manchester United and have picked up the Alex Ferguson habit of seeing unfairness everywhere except when they're the beneficiaries of ">it.'" I doubt football allegiances have anything to do with it. Some people just see themselves/their club as victims regardless. I know a few people who don't even follow football who've acted like that about Salford. I think it's an inevitable part of being down the bottom for years on end. Supporters of all "smaller" clubs start to think that way across all sports. To continue the United analogy, look at the amount of people who've claimed they never get a decision at OT. It's a siege mentality that comes from supporting an unsuccessful club. Then again, it's also a rugby league supporter trait to think that every official is turd and out to get you. Have a gander at the RL Meltdown account on Twitter...'" I mentioned Untied because I think this was where it changed from being something the more deluded fans did into something that was almost club policy. It seems Alex Ferguson rarely saw United lose a game fairly, but only because of dark forces behind the scenes. Apologists would try to explain it with the anodyne "Fergie's mind games", when the real explanation - the one they never used - was "Ferguson's being a dick again". It makes me wonder if this was a tipping point and why we seem to see the conspiracies more often nowadays.

Quote ="Red John"I mentioned Untied because I think this was where it changed from being something the more deluded fans did into something that was almost club policy. It seems Alex Ferguson rarely saw United lose a game fairly, but only because of dark forces behind the scenes. Apologists would try to explain it with the anodyne "Fergie's mind games", when the real explanation - the one they never used - was "Ferguson's being a dick again". It makes me wonder if this was a tipping point and why we seem to see the conspiracies more often ">nowadays.'" It happens across football (Arsene Wenger - "I did not see the incident"icon_wink.gif and sport (often "Salford only won because we were sh*t"icon_wink.gif. It's a modern day symptom of professional sport and the analysis, scrutiny and pressure people are under, not a symptom of supporting a particular club.

Quote ="Red John"I mentioned Untied because I think this was where it changed from being something the more deluded fans did into something that was almost club policy. It seems Alex Ferguson rarely saw United lose a game fairly, but only because of dark forces behind the scenes. Apologists would try to explain it with the anodyne "Fergie's mind games", when the real explanation - the one they never used - was "Ferguson's being a dick again". It makes me wonder if this was a tipping point and why we seem to see the conspiracies more often ">nowadays.'" It happens across football (Arsene Wenger - "I did not see the incident"icon_wink.gif and sport (often "Salford only won because we were sh*t"icon_wink.gif. It's a modern day symptom of professional sport and the analysis, scrutiny and pressure people are under, not a symptom of supporting a particular club.