Quote ="Walshovski" Seems crazy that for years we were told The Willows was holding the club back and now we've moved to a ground which is still holding us back. That said, there is nothing we can do apart from try and improve things at ">Barton.'" At least things can be improved at Barton. With a decent access road the car parking problem will ease and there are other minor issues which are being addressed now. With a successful team the complaints about the stadium will die down. But don't worry - whatever happens I'm sure we will all still find things to criticise.

Quote ="Walshovski" Seems crazy that for years we were told The Willows was holding the club back and now we've moved to a ground which is still holding us back. That said, there is nothing we can do apart from try and improve things at ">Barton.'" At least things can be improved at Barton. With a decent access road the car parking problem will ease and there are other minor issues which are being addressed now. With a successful team the complaints about the stadium will die down. But don't worry - whatever happens I'm sure we will all still find things to criticise.

I always wonder if Securitas will try at some point and take over from Group4?



They run Charleroi airport and it's seamless, they are incredibly friendly and seem to only have half the staff of other airports but everything runs twice as well.

3 sets of unhappy fans? Sounds a little bit Daily Mail that. You're always going to get some people moaning who aren't happy with something, probably more a minority than majority.



After the Scotland v USA game I honestly couldn't find one thing to moan about. Food was decent, beer was decent and from leaving my seat I was on my way home in 15 minutes.

In Sale's case there may be more to it than just how inaccessible the stadium is. Looking on the Sharks forum, one or two people are grumbling about how dull they are to watch (even to the point of questioning the rules of the sport with a "I don't want us to turn into Rugby League but..." followed by a list of ways they'd like the sport to turn into Rugby League). It seems that that, combined with the location, is what's keeping fans away.



I guess the important thing, then, is to put something watchable on the field. If you do that, the stadium will suddenly become more accessible. As if by magic.

Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"3 sets of unhappy fans? Sounds a little bit Daily Mail that. You're always going to get some people moaning who aren't happy with something, probably more a minority than majority. After the Scotland v USA game I honestly couldn't find one thing to moan about. Food was decent, beer was decent and from leaving my seat I was on my way home in 15 ">minutes.'" There are so many little things that could be improved though with a little bit of planning. The recent 'no parking' for the world cup game, then caving in on the day when faced with dozens of cars doing 3 point turns on the approach road a prime example. As stated a winning side may see many of the so called issues disappear, however I fear we will be having the same discussions throughout next season, unless the club can persuade the stadium management company to start using a bit of common sense.

Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"3 sets of unhappy fans? Sounds a little bit Daily Mail that. You're always going to get some people moaning who aren't happy with something, probably more a minority than majority. After the Scotland v USA game I honestly couldn't find one thing to moan about. Food was decent, beer was decent and from leaving my seat I was on my way home in 15 ">minutes.'" There are so many little things that could be improved though with a little bit of planning. The recent 'no parking' for the world cup game, then caving in on the day when faced with dozens of cars doing 3 point turns on the approach road a prime example. As stated a winning side may see many of the so called issues disappear, however I fear we will be having the same discussions throughout next season, unless the club can persuade the stadium management company to start using a bit of common sense.

I'm pretty certain that the Doc with a full season behind him and no doubt someone who's done a decent report on the issues will go to the SMC and in his shy retiring way demand fixes be applied to issues that occur. Most of them are annoyingly small things that would be easy to fix like the food/drink situation, the transport problems are in hand and doubt there is anything can be done other than try and get a park and ride system working smoothly.