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I enjoy reading your posts but I must point out that Noble won far more,over a longer period of time,than Maguire did.
I believe I am correct to point out that during the success Noble enjoyed at Bradford he had Jennings as conditioner who has contributed to the RLW magazine.
Jennings is now back at a club in Australia where the success has not been repeated.

lacking in thought? oh dear

You seen incapable of understanding you own posts

nakivell attributes the success of wigan under maguire to conditioning...You have pointed out that were other important things, which is what I said, do try and keep up.

I asked nak for specifics about conditioning but the cupboard was bare....lacking in thought maybe?

By precisely setting how he wanted to play maguire could then have conditioning that was fit for purpose (something some uk coaches have failed to grasp). This also reduces injuries and improved physio and rehab minimises abscences.

maguire brought the whole storm systemic approach with him, not just 'conditioning'. HTH

Indeed he did and at that time he was an outstanding coach. It is important to remember the groundwork had been done by others before Nobby and he had been given an education by those coaches such as Brian Smith. IIRC, Jennings was appointed by Brian Smith. Might be wrong though.

Every coach like players has their peak. Brian Smith may even now be past his peak. John Monie came to Wigan at his peak and delivered. He later came and whilst successful was less so. Even more recent he could not well past his peak work miracles with France. Brian Noble is a good coach but past his peak. He will always coach teams that win more than they lose but in terms of winning competitions those days are gone. Maguire showed how a young coach still nearing his peak can make a difference.

I believe Brian Smith despite being past his peak can put in place systems and deliver in the short term success at Salford. The Reds need to be planning to replace him after 3 seasons maximum.

I was about to write you off as troll but the latter half of your post was deserving.

Nak made a simple mistake about when Wigan won the CC and you acted like a troll towards him.

You are right Maguire brought the entire Melbourne philosophy to Wigan. It was rumoured Kearney was out first choice at the time by the press. Luckily, we seemed to get the better end of the deal. Sport is supposedly simple but Maguire fully understood the Storm system. he brought a game plan that saw numbers in every tackle (much easier said than done), improved groundwork on the ball carrier to slow the POTB down and reduce yard gained in the set. Ball in hand, he made Wigan respect the ball, limiting offloading in our own half and once we got in the opposition 20 the attack plays based on the now common second man routines were executed perfectly. Above all he brought a discipline to the club where players were treated firmly but with clear expectations, the highest.

The fine detail is far far more but every player bought into it because they learned far more from Maguire than they did from anybody else, anywhere else. Ask Paul Deacon!

Conditionining was led by Bitcon.

Wigan under Brian Noble was a holiday camp compared to Maguire.

I have just found an article from a couple of months ago and Matt Elliott gave the first opportunity for coaching to both Brian Noble and Michael Maguire.
Other people doing the groundwork and then being replaced by others does seem quite common in a lot of sports.
Jennings the conditioner has followed Elliott about,but it is the piece about McDermott wielding a stick which may have been a significant factor in the fitness/conditioning.
Dunno about visualisation but a sports psychologist,after what the Salford players have endured,may be of some assistance.
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