I didn’t want Gleeson due to his past, especially the drugs part (not a good example for a “family sport” to set ).

But after all the problems we have been seeing at the club I find myself quite upbeat about the signing.

And due to a couple of comings and goings, could this mean the takeover could soon be over?

Gleeson is still in good nick and although he's 32 he has had a couple years off so won't have the same wear and tear as a general 32 year old. Partner him up with Broughton and he will score close to 20 tries in the season for you off the back of Gleeson's play.

Quote ="Philyourboots"I can't believe what i'm reading d040.gif" alt="d040.gif" title="CRAZY" /> There is no substitute for speed. Williams couldn't run. If he was class Darryl Powell and Carl Gibson wouldn't of been prefered in the Great Britain team. Gee Whizz'" Dearly Powell - renowned for his pace?

Quote ="Philyourboots"I can't believe what i'm reading d040.gif" alt="d040.gif" title="CRAZY" /> There is no substitute for speed. Williams couldn't run. If he was class Darryl Powell and Carl Gibson wouldn't of been prefered in the Great Britain team. Gee Whizz'" Dearly Powell - renowned for his pace?

Okay if Peter Williams oozed "class" and Hesketh was a step above being "World class", which "class" does the likes of Keith Senior, Joe Lydon and Paul Loughlin ( proven internationals ) belong too because the latter three were a step above PW. And with the great Chris Hesketh being "world class" greg Inglis, Brett Kenny, Mal Meninga must be "universal class".



I think the term "class player" is over used today, there's no doubt PW played well for us and had diverse skills. Today in the British game the centre has evolved into a much more strength, powerful and mobile (pace) position more so from the days of PW when evasive skills were more at hand from the centre.

Quote ="Philyourboots"Okay if Peter Williams oozed "class" and Hesketh was a step above being "World class", which "class" does the likes of Keith Senior, Joe Lydon and Paul Loughlin ( proven internationals ) belong too because the latter three were a step above PW. And with the great Chris Hesketh being "world class" greg Inglis, Brett Kenny, Mal Meninga must be "universal class". I think the term "class player" is over used today, there's no doubt PW played well for us and had diverse skills. Today in the British game the centre has evolved into a much more strength, powerful and mobile (pace) position more so from the days of PW when evasive skills were more at hand from the ">centre.'" Williams was a good player Hesketh was class Keith Senior, Joe Lydon and Paul Loughlin where very good players Hesketh was part of team that beat the Australian for ths ashes and the world cup something Keith Senior, Joe Lydon and Paul Loughlin did not do

Quote ="Philyourboots"Okay if Peter Williams oozed "class" and Hesketh was a step above being "World class", which "class" does the likes of Keith Senior, Joe Lydon and Paul Loughlin ( proven internationals ) belong too because the latter three were a step above PW. And with the great Chris Hesketh being "world class" greg Inglis, Brett Kenny, Mal Meninga must be "universal class". I think the term "class player" is over used today, there's no doubt PW played well for us and had diverse skills. Today in the British game the centre has evolved into a much more strength, powerful and mobile (pace) position more so from the days of PW when evasive skills were more at hand from the ">centre.'" Williams was a good player Hesketh was class Keith Senior, Joe Lydon and Paul Loughlin where very good players Hesketh was part of team that beat the Australian for ths ashes and the world cup something Keith Senior, Joe Lydon and Paul Loughlin did not do

Quote ="Philyourboots"Okay if Peter Williams oozed "class" and Hesketh was a step above being "World class", which "class" does the likes of Keith Senior, Joe Lydon and Paul Loughlin ( proven internationals ) belong too because the latter three were a step above PW. And with the great Chris Hesketh being "world class" greg Inglis, Brett Kenny, Mal Meninga must be "universal class". I think the term "class player" is over used today, there's no doubt PW played well for us and had diverse skills. Today in the British game the centre has evolved into a much more strength, powerful and mobile (pace) position more so from the days of PW when evasive skills were more at hand from the ">centre.'" It's all subjective. Which was my original point anyway. Being pedantic to make your point fit is a bit weak. On to your other point. You're right in saying that the role of centre has evolved and changed, which means that drawing comparisons between players of different eras is pointless anyway. They can only be judged against the players that played at the time, or the players they played with to keep it in context. You say so yourself in your last sentence. All this back and forth has been pointless as you have your opinion and others have theirs. You're not got to change it, neither are we.

Quote ="Philyourboots"Okay if Peter Williams oozed "class" and Hesketh was a step above being "World class", which "class" does the likes of Keith Senior, Joe Lydon and Paul Loughlin ( proven internationals ) belong too because the latter three were a step above PW. And with the great Chris Hesketh being "world class" greg Inglis, Brett Kenny, Mal Meninga must be "universal class". I think the term "class player" is over used today, there's no doubt PW played well for us and had diverse skills. Today in the British game the centre has evolved into a much more strength, powerful and mobile (pace) position more so from the days of PW when evasive skills were more at hand from the ">centre.'" It's all subjective. Which was my original point anyway. Being pedantic to make your point fit is a bit weak. On to your other point. You're right in saying that the role of centre has evolved and changed, which means that drawing comparisons between players of different eras is pointless anyway. They can only be judged against the players that played at the time, or the players they played with to keep it in context. You say so yourself in your last sentence. All this back and forth has been pointless as you have your opinion and others have theirs. You're not got to change it, neither are we.