Quote ="Red John"No. He's worried that the other players in the squad aren't top 8 material and that he'll lose his job through no fault of his own. Imagine Salford put an offer in today to, say, Kevin Sinfield, but with your 'must finish in the top 8' idea in the contract. Kevin, as we all know, is desperate to sign, but what does he do? He looks at the squad and thinks 'these are borderline top 8 at best. I could end up out of a job after one season. I'll stick with Leeds'. Bye bye Kevin. It doesn't just deter those who see Salford as an easy ride. It deters ">everyone.'" Why would a player of the calibre of Kevin Sinfield be worried by such a clause. Were Hodgson, Robinson, Korkidas or Finnigan would the season we got relegated. No they either walked straight into other clubs or already had them lined up. Good committed players should not be worried. Anyone who baulks at such a clause is someone we would not want. Standards have to be set and performance has to be monitored. There's a thread on the go at present about Corey Paterson, he's still got 12 months to go at Newcastle Knights but has been told to look elsewhere. Those are the standards we need to aspire too.

Quote ="Red John"No. He's worried that the other players in the squad aren't top 8 material and that he'll lose his job through no fault of his own. Imagine Salford put an offer in today to, say, Kevin Sinfield, but with your 'must finish in the top 8' idea in the contract. Kevin, as we all know, is desperate to sign, but what does he do? He looks at the squad and thinks 'these are borderline top 8 at best. I could end up out of a job after one season. I'll stick with Leeds'. Bye bye Kevin. It doesn't just deter those who see Salford as an easy ride. It deters ">everyone.'" Why would a player of the calibre of Kevin Sinfield be worried by such a clause. Were Hodgson, Robinson, Korkidas or Finnigan would the season we got relegated. No they either walked straight into other clubs or already had them lined up. Good committed players should not be worried. Anyone who baulks at such a clause is someone we would not want. Standards have to be set and performance has to be monitored. There's a thread on the go at present about Corey Paterson, he's still got 12 months to go at Newcastle Knights but has been told to look elsewhere. Those are the standards we need to aspire too.

Quote ="Red John"A risk that coud see the club unburdened by any sort of player ">whatsoever.'" Well not really because there are only so many places to go. Only 14 teams and the gap between SL and championship salary cap is substantial.

Quote ="Red John"A risk that coud see the club unburdened by any sort of player ">whatsoever.'" Well not really because there are only so many places to go. Only 14 teams and the gap between SL and championship salary cap is substantial.

Quote ="Ocker"Well not really because there are only so many places to go. Only 14 teams and the gap between SL and championship salary cap is ">substantial.'" So, the players who have more than one offer on the table will go to the clubs who are able to offer guaranteed two or three year deals. The rest - the ones without decent offers from elsewhere (y'know, the ones no-one else wants) - will come to Salford to join the contract termination lottery. Brilliant.

Quote ="Ocker"Well not really because there are only so many places to go. Only 14 teams and the gap between SL and championship salary cap is ">substantial.'" So, the players who have more than one offer on the table will go to the clubs who are able to offer guaranteed two or three year deals. The rest - the ones without decent offers from elsewhere (y'know, the ones no-one else wants) - will come to Salford to join the contract termination lottery. Brilliant.

Quote ="Red John"So, the players who have more than one offer on the table will go to the clubs who are able to offer guaranteed two or three year deals. The rest - the ones without decent offers from elsewhere (y'know, the ones no-one else wants) - will come to Salford to join the contract termination lottery. ">Brilliant.'" Only if we are very lucky. If not they'll do a year in our treatment room. icon_wink.gif" alt="icon_wink.gif" title="Wink" />

Quote ="Red John"So, the players who have more than one offer on the table will go to the clubs who are able to offer guaranteed two or three year deals. The rest - the ones without decent offers from elsewhere (y'know, the ones no-one else wants) - will come to Salford to join the contract termination lottery. ">Brilliant.'" Only if we are very lucky. If not they'll do a year in our treatment room. icon_wink.gif" alt="icon_wink.gif" title="Wink" />

"If you have a clause that allows you the OPTION to terminate a contract why would you use it terminate the contracts of the best players? Surely you would release the worst players"



Explain how this stands up in employment legislation:

1. Players can ask to be released but the club can require a transfer fee: this makes them different in that they cannot just hand in a month's (or whatever) notice. At the same time it gives them security of their contract. You remove one, their soliciors will make sure the other is removed. So Ratchford (for example) could leave in July.

2. You are not talking redundancy so explain how you marry "unacceptable performance" with lack of points in a season won by others, whose performance is not seen as worthy of sacking?

3. How you decide on the worst players. Poor Broughton: few tackles and few passes. Out! Your and my view is immaterial here: the targets and the stats set to show the meeting of such targets become the golden rule.

We're not a million miles away... We're a billion!