I find it funny you've taken it by suprise.



It's a common word in Wigan.

Edited for accuracy

yep thats the game.

im a neutral. if anything i liked leeds more than the rest of the clubs i mentioned



the hull derby was the best for me

some saints fans were saying the game against warrington was more of a game than the derby with the squads wire had in the past 3 years.



i just think the wigan / saints derby has lost a little of its lustre.



yes the atmos. was great

because Wigan have been garbage for 5 years.

Last years games were good though.

Hopefully a return to form on this one this year.



Us and Saints have had absolute crackers over the last couple of years, the cup game where Penny scored 'that try' was one of the best games in my recent memory along with a few more at Knowsley Road. I look forward to saints games the most but the feeling isnt the other way I don't think

Wigan v Saints has been the best derby historically. Going from last years games I think the Wigan saints games were the most entertaining.

Harlequins v Catalan is the most important Derby in SL..........just ask the guys at Red Hall

Aside from being a wigan fan, what parameters are you using to define "best derby historically"?

One is the most succesful club in history, the other is the modern day giant.

They have competed in some of the most important games together.

Pretty much every game is a great watch.

Great crowds.

Most of the greatest players of all time have played in the derby.

pretty much every game?

You talking about the reserves?

Other than 09 pretty much every game since about 4 years ago has been a whitewash

Thats why I said pretty much. 2005 to 2008 was pretty poor.

...or Celtic v Widnes

....they're pretty near each other aren't they

Shouldn't you be earning a living instead of coming on here

Not allowed until the residency thingy is sorted out. Hard life....but hey, these things are sent to test us.....Another Tui please barkeep!

Nonsense, it's all about the Speights!

1) Fair enough

2) important for Wigan/Saints fans, signifigantly less so for anyone else

3) As per most derbies.

4) Most? thats one hell of a claim.

Yes I do believe they were

Tui Pale ale ,

Problem I have had in NZ when visiting is I drink that much I get fed up with beers too quickly

, tui is my favourite though , I have the 'Rules of cricket ' Chilly bin



Are you going to the ' cup ' at Trentham , the after race parties are usually quite good

Nope, you'll hear it said in retirement homes across the borough too.



Maybe one of your carers has worked in Wigan?

old faithfull, we roam the range together

old faithfull, in any kind of weather

when the round up days are over

and the boulevarde is full of clover

youll ole faithfull pall of mine







i learnt the words by heart. love it.

the saints / wigan derby has the benefit of 2 clubs who have been very succesful collectively over 20 years. both also having long stints at the top level (both being in division 1/ SL for ages)



the hull derby has FC having average top level form, with its best result being the CC final win.



KR have been in division one (ie NL1) for ages and only now are building into a decent SL side



when was the last time they played a really good derby game ? the CC final in the 80s



the Hull derby can only get better as the 2 clubs get stronger.

Ahem,



I think you'll find that the last two lines are actually;



and The Boulevarde's fallen over,

Ooold Faithful, feck off home.

Most ridiculous claim ever award goes to.............