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| If and I mean if Bradford get their points back and another team goes down instead would that team be able to take the RFL to court and win, when you look at teams like Salford with money to burn and say it was them instead of Bradford 
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| Quote cravenpark1="cravenpark1"If and I mean if Bradford get their points back:'"
I would be staggered if we even get 2 back. I don't think the appeal will affect the relegation spots at all.
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| You will get two points back
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| Quote cravenpark1="cravenpark1"If and I mean if Bradford get their points back and another team goes down instead would that team be able to take the RFL to court and win, when you look at teams like Salford with money to burn and say it was them instead of Bradford
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On what basis?
The appeal is not being heard by the RFL, it's by an independent panel. So it's not the RFL's decision.
The appeal is allowable under the rules. That's something all clubs have agreed to.
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| Unlike Hughes, Koukash has actually put his money where his mouth is, both in terms of signing players and boosting gates.
Salford is part of Greater Manchester, they're also the nearest team to Manchester centre proper.
Salford's attendances have increased massively on last year. Rome wasn't built in a day, it'll take a couple of seasons until they're challenging. Wanting them to go down for the temerity of having an owner who actually tries to transform a club is parochial spitefulness at its worst.
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| From a Cas point of view it would have to be the 2 teams who bring the least fans, unfortunately, Catalans is one amazing away day, So that leaves London and Salford. But it will definitely be London and Bradford who go down, and as they will be the bottom 2, rightfully so.
Both clubs need a fresh start, they need to take stock of themselves and rebuild the whole identity of the club, once they have done this they will regain their place on merit.
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| Quote Dettoriman="Dettoriman"
Both clubs need a fresh start, they need to take stock of themselves and rebuild the whole identity of the club, once they have done this they will regain their place on merit.'"
Won't happen. Neither will be back.
But hey maybe feath will have 5 mins in the sun so everyone can pretend the game isn't actually on its aris.
After all what the game needs is the universal panacea of promotion and relegation, with the wholesome and traditional village teams rather than city teams that this brings. That'll make the broadsheets sit up and take notice.
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| Quote Pumpetypump="Pumpetypump"Won't happen. Neither will be back.
But hey maybe feath will have 5 mins in the sun so everyone can pretend the game isn't actually on its aris.
After all what the game needs is the universal panacea of promotion and relegation, with the wholesome and traditional village teams rather than city teams that this brings. That'll make the broadsheets sit up and take notice.'"
So if they dont get back they arent capable of bettering these ' village teams ' ,they wont deserve to get back, and better to see an article on Fev making SL than another debt ridden collapse by Bradford Bulls
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"So if they dont get back they arent capable of bettering these ' village teams ' ,they wont deserve to get back, and better to see an article on Fev making SL than another debt ridden collapse by Bradford Bulls'"
TBH, I don't see how teams CAN get back into SL after this year. The clubs that are down will be forced down to a lower salary cap than those in SL, a lower overseas quota and might even be forced into having part-time teams due to financial constraints.
Under the old structure of a play-off between Championship clubs to earn promotion, you at least had a chance, but 4 SL sides vs 4 Championship sides? You might get the occasional upset as we've seen in the cup, but is it really going to happen every year?
IMO the 2015 structure is there just to give the illusion of promotion and relegation unless the rules are changed so that all 24 teams are placed on an a more even footing than the one on which they currently stand.
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| Quote roofaldo2="roofaldo2"TBH, I don't see how teams CAN get back into SL after this year. The clubs that are down will be forced down to a lower salary cap than those in SL, a lower overseas quota and might even be forced into having part-time teams due to financial constraints.
Under the old structure of a play-off between Championship clubs to earn promotion, you at least had a chance, but 4 SL sides vs 4 Championship sides? You might get the occasional upset as we've seen in the cup, but is it really going to happen every year?
IMO the 2015 structure is there just to give the illusion of promotion and relegation unless the rules are changed so that all 24 teams are placed on an a more even footing than the one on which they currently stand.'"
Then they dont, simple as, why the concern? , I'm sure you werent concerned before?
You messed up, tough, if you ( your club, owners ,sponsors and support ) arent strong, loyal enough to build yourself back, you stay down with us and enjoy your RL
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| Quote Dave Lister="Dave Lister"It'd be nice to see Cas go down too.'"
Happened twice already. Not this time though. Dream on.
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| Quote Pumpetypump="Pumpetypump"After all what the game needs is the universal panacea of promotion and relegation, with the wholesome and traditional village teams rather than city teams that this brings. That'll make the broadsheets sit up and take notice.'"
My "traditional Village team" ain't doing too badly. Plenty of room for more village teams in SL.
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| Quote Worlds Apart="Worlds Apart"Unlike Hughes, Koukash has actually put his money where his mouth is, '"
David Hughes has pumped in excess of 13,000,000 into London RL over the seasons 2008 to 2013.......he achieved little in that period.....other than an academy that is now pumping out players of championship standard. He admittedly has little understanding of the importance of crowds, but he will walk away leaving us debt free......that's 13 million pounds by the way.
Dr M has invested nothing like that figure, and achieved pretty much the same......attendances BTW are running at 2012 levels now and Salford are sitting on 9 points at the 50% stage of the season......you were on 8 points this time 2012.
Bradford, Wakefield and London are the only teams worse than Salford this year and the fact is that the "new" "new" "new" Salford next year will have a "new" coach after 8 rounds or so if they aren't in the top half.......Marwan is a breath of fresh air and I hope he has the stamina for it, but in reality, he needs to understand he hasn't bought Manchester City.
London and Bradford down!
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"Then they dont, simple as, why the concern? , I'm sure you werent concerned before?
You messed up, tough, if you ( your club, owners ,sponsors and support ) arent strong, loyal enough to build yourself back, you stay down with us and enjoy your RL'"
This.
A thousand times over.
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"So if they dont get back they arent capable of bettering these ' village teams ' ,they wont deserve to get back, and better to see an article on Fev making SL than another debt ridden collapse by Bradford Bulls'"
And again. A thousand times over.
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| Quote roofaldo2="roofaldo2"TBH, I don't see how teams CAN get back into SL after this year. The clubs that are down will be forced down to a lower salary cap than those in SL, a lower overseas quota and might even be forced into having part-time teams due to financial constraints.
Under the old structure of a play-off between Championship clubs to earn promotion, you at least had a chance, but 4 SL sides vs 4 Championship sides? You might get the occasional upset as we've seen in the cup, but is it really going to happen every year?
IMO the 2015 structure is there just to give the illusion of promotion and relegation unless the rules are changed so that all 24 teams are placed on an a more even footing than the one on which they currently stand.'"
If that is the case then the village teams will not be going up, so what is lost. We had to go down to 12 according to many.
It's strange how lower salary cap restraints are only concerning to SL clubs likely to be relegated. There was little concern before.
Although the gap will be now where near what it is currently. Personally I'd just scrap the salary cap and have a break even cap, then Championship clubs can spend up to their revenue.
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| I have no problems with a "village" team, when ever you get a large group of RL fans together "Classy Cas'" quickly emerge as everyones' (well the majority, lmao) "second" team.
Hughes, 'Fax?? Yep, an absolute fortune, it's unbelievable really that a successful businessman could blow so much and get so many fundamentals wrong, I'd pee myself laughing if I wasn't a London fan.
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| Quote CrusaderPete="CrusaderPete"I have no problems with a "village" team, when ever you get a large group of RL fans together "Classy Cas'" quickly emerge as everyones' (well the majority, lmao) "second" team.
Hughes, 'Fax?? Yep, an absolute fortune, it's unbelievable really that a successful businessman could blow so much and get so many fundamentals wrong, I'd pee myself laughing if I wasn't a London fan.'"
Quite right Pete, Fulham could be described as a ' Village ' in truth 
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| Quote Dick Jones="Dick Jones"Hope your right be great to see that money doesn't always talk . bye bye the doc please if there is. God !!!'"
And that after his generous donation to Leigh in February!!!!
Dearie me.
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| Quote Worlds Apart="Worlds Apart"The amount of vindctive rubbish on here is unbelievable. 'I want that club to go down because I don't like them, even though the league as a whole would be worse without them'. The mentality that is ensuring RL will never be what it could be in the UK.
London & Wakefield. Both are not commercially viable entities, both are poorly supported.
As for those arguing for Bradford & Salford - the one that until recently had five-figure home crowds, the other will a multimillionaire owner wanting to create success for RL in the largest city in the North of England - wake the feck up.'"
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| it's a pity Wigan are not an option in the poll, we could win this as well..!!! 
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| All of them
For CONSISTENCY anyway
The word of RL favour at the moment.
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| Quote Wigan Peer="Wigan Peer"it's a pity Wigan are not an option in the poll, we could win this as well..!!!
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If the poll had an end date, wigan would turn up when it mattered most and overtake the front runner to win at the end.
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"Then they dont, simple as, why the concern? , I'm sure you werent concerned before?
You messed up, tough, if you ( your club, owners ,sponsors and support ) arent strong, loyal enough to build yourself back, you stay down with us and enjoy your RL'"
Or they don't stay down there and the game loses fans ,money and a club and you can pretend your idiotic logic that because nobody in Bradford wants to watch a part-time competition against village sides they don't 'deserve' SL is anything other than bitter, vindictive tall poppy syndrome.
It's especially hypocritical coming from you, who has argued long and hard for many many hours that it was only the dream of getting out of the part-time pit village league that kept these part-time pit village clubs alive, yet you think Bradford should accept the opposite with good grace? You want to start moralising and doing down Bradford fans for not being loyal enough to stick by a club being kicked from pillar to post, talk of being loyal coming from a man who brags about not going to games any more just because he doesn't like the league structure?
Ha, I'm embarrassed for you
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| Quote Tigerade="Tigerade"My "traditional Village team" ain't doing too badly. Plenty of room for more village teams in SL.'"
Bloody hell, thirteen decent performances undoes years of struggling?
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