As I said earlier



Origami





Having said that as long as your stadium is safe and has a reasonable capacity then it should have no bearing on what level you play

You'll get no argument from me there!

Starbug one part of the Catalans Stadium redevelopment is already underway and thats the leisure facility behind one goal.

The construction work could clearly be seen on the TV pictures. Hence its unfair to describe it as Origami.

For pics of the work going on currently re Saints new stadium See the following link which has many pics of demolition and site clearance work on the site of the new stadium. Construction of which is due to start in late summer. www.redvee.net/forums/showthread ... 45&page=14

For pics of the work going on currently re Saints new stadium See the following link which has many pics of demolition and site clearance work on the site of the new stadium. Construction of which is due to start in late summer. www.redvee.net/forums/showthread ... 45&page=14

Unfair? Since when has fairness ever figured on these boards? Starbug was being tongue in cheek, tbf.



Stadium looks superb though. I hope I'll visit it someday.

Leigh's stadium could also be seen if they had driven down the by pass for half a mile from Hilton park , but it was still not taken into account last July





But as I said , it should not have any bearing on what level you play at as long as the stadium available to you is safe and of reasonable capacity



If they end up throwing any club out of SL because of stadia it will make us look stupid in my opinion

I dont think they would average 15000 in a new ground ok they may have got 17000 on fri against wire who had a sizeable folowing with people i spoke to and what are they going to get against catalan,quins,celtic for saints to average 15000 they would need a 25000 seat stadium and fill it against wigan.

Quote The Chair Maker="The Chair Maker"For pics of the work going on currently re Saints new stadium See the following link which has many pics of demolition and site clearance work on the site of the new stadium. Construction of which is due to start in late summer. www.redvee.net/forums/showthread ... 45&page=14'" I fully expect you to be the next RL club to get a new facility , but at this moment you have not started ' building ' anything , therefore it is at this moment ' Origami ' , nothing else

Quote The Chair Maker="The Chair Maker"For pics of the work going on currently re Saints new stadium See the following link which has many pics of demolition and site clearance work on the site of the new stadium. Construction of which is due to start in late summer. www.redvee.net/forums/showthread ... 45&page=14'" I fully expect you to be the next RL club to get a new facility , but at this moment you have not started ' building ' anything , therefore it is at this moment ' Origami ' , nothing else

New stadia are great , as long as they either belong to the club or are run by the club for the benifit of the club



Council ' facilities ' that are available to clubs for 17/18 days a year are most definatley not ' preferable ' than owning your own ' dump '



No problem with Wheldon road , it does what it says on the tin , it is a RL ground , tatty yes , old yes , lacking in atmosphere ? NO

LEIGH have a new stadium?!?



Quick, someone better tell Richard Lewis.

I'll send you a pic, otherwise you may miss the visit due to it being an away game

Welcome Mr Duffen!

Send it to my grandkids (as yet not born). I will only be around another 40 years so may miss it actually being built

recent history shows us that most teams who get a new stadium increase their attendances by around 50% warrington and hull achieved this. This would give saints an average of around 15k obviously it would be more for wigan /warrington/leeds etc but less for cats/ quins etc

You are breeding

Bang on mate!



Many of the cheerleaders for new stadia seem to think playing out of a new stadium is a licence to print money for the club involved. As you say, unless the club owns the stadium the money to be made out of it is extremely limited.

Never while posting

Complete and utter rubbish.



Hull FC make far more money at the KC than they did at the Boulevard and they don't own the KC.

Ticket sale increases, corporate increase, bigger profile, more merchandise sales as a result, etc. You may say "you have to pay rent", but this covers maintenance, which you would have to pay if you owned your own ground anyway.

its not as if Hull FC have signed a poor tenancy deal whereby the stadium gets loads of extra revenues once Hulls crowds grow above a certain figure

Correct. That deal was renegotiated a while ago.



Hull FC make enough money from the playing at the KC to turn a modest profit for the last three years. How many clubs who own their own stadia are doing the same?

Big club in a big city , quite pssibly



Medium or smallish town a different scenario



Put that club outside SL and it is a loss maker

Truly frightening, is there not enough suffering in this world.

Suppose we are all peasents compared to people who can afford to go to the KC every other week.

Th east stand at fax now has a roof on all of it and the diners club patio, sorry, viewing terrace is currently being installed.



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