My 17 for the same game



1 cudjoe

2 fox

3 shenton

4 lawrence/atkins

5 smith

6 burrow

7 brough

8 burgess

9 higham

10 lynch

11 westwood

12 westerman

13 purdham



14 roby

15 graham

16 lms

17 myler

who is lms

Louie McCarthy Scarsbrook.

smith

fox

pryce

shenton

raynor

maguire

myler

scruton

diskin

graham

ellis

burgess

westerman



lms

lynch

hock

roby

I don't think Scruton could cope at international level against the likes of Thaiday and Civoneciva.

Briscoe

Fox

Shenton

Atkins

Smith

Pryce

Brough (why not - he's said he wants to play for England now so use him)

Graham

Burrow (his pace would be utilised better at dummy half I think)

Peacock

Hock

O'Loughlin

Sinfield



Westerman

Burgess

Lynch

Roby





Obviously Ellis would feature in the 4N squad but not the France game

You cant be serious!!!



Looking at everyones teams on here, all i can say is England are deep trouble....

We need a goal kicker. Possibly with picking Brough we could drop Sinfield but otherwise he has to be in.

brough ain't gonna get picked so don't worry about it

alot of that side wouldn't but i'd give the younger lads a shot now.

I totally understand that point, and before the World Cup i was saying the same. But he just isnt good enough, id rather see a young lad given the chance than a proven failure just there to kick the odd goal.

We have some decent forwards with the likes of Ellis, Peacock and Burgess but the pivots and backs are the concern.



We don't have a hooker who can control a game and direct the side around the park.



We don't have a pair of half backs who combine a top class kicking game and quality distribution



We don't have the set of backs with speed and skill to make breaks and finish tries



IMO we don't have a stand out leader who everyone respects and see's as the top of the tree so in this case I think the captaincy should go to our best player who will lead by example and IMO this is Ellis

The times come for a new generation of England players to be picked imo and some of the old guard left out.



If it was being picked at the moment i'd like to see-



Briscoe

Smith

Shenton

Yeaman

Sharp/Ainscough/Fox(I'd be happy with any of the 3)

McGuire

Burrow

Graham

Roby

Lynch

Peacock

Ellis

Westerman



subs

Burgess

LMS

Hock

Pryce

pryce on the bench does not sound good

Pryce in the squad does not sound good

Why?



He can cover any position in the backs aswell as loose forward at a push. He could come on in games with Burrow moving to 9.



He doesn't warrent a starting spot ahead of McGuire after his awful world cup.

Smith / Briscoe

Ainscough

Gleeson

Shenton

Fox

Pryce

McGuire

Graham

Roby

Peacock

Ellis

Burgess

Westerman



Burrow

LMS

Hock (he needs a big year for club & country this year)

Lynch/L Burgess

That back row looks quality and is only going to get better

i think we have a winner here! impact of the bench, mix of youth and experience! even them backs look dangerous! only possible change i would make is lee smith on the wing instead of fox and briscoe at full back

Depends what the Test is intended to be - an opportunity to expose some young players to the next step up ahead of the Four Nations, or for the first choice players to spend some time together and develop some patterns of play.



I'd be surprised if Ellis was released by Wests or if the England management asked for his release to be honest. He'll get more out of staying down there than coming up to face a most likely mediocre French side.



Smith, Gardner, Gleeson, Shenton, Fox, McGuire, Burrow, Peacock, Roby, Graham, McCarthy-Scarsbrook, S Burgess, Westerman



Bench : Lynch, Hock, R.Horne, O'Loughlin.

I dont think we can ignore Richard Horne at the moment for one of the half back positions....he's worth a game in a match of this significance (or lack of it) Him and Burrow appeal to me as a half back pairing.

theres no need to bring ellis back is there? he's one of the first on the team sheet anyway..we should be looking at someone else incase gaz is ever injured..

atm im unsure weather to go with tomkins and myler halfbacks. is it worth a go against France or not? unsure! but this is what i'd go with



Briscoe

Smith

Shenton

Atkins

Fox

Horne/Tomkins

Burrow/Myler

Graham

Roby

S.Burgess

LMS

Ellis

Westerman



any of them halfbacks

Peacock

Hock

Lynch



as i say, its my opinion! and any of them halfback pairings will do me fine

Against France bearing in mind it's a good time to give a few different players a go I'd go with



1.Smith

2.Fox

3.Yeaman

4.Shenton

5.Ainscough

6.Pryce

7.Myler

8.Graham

9.Roby

10.Peacock

11.Hock

12.JJB

13.Westerman

14.Burrow

15.Burgess

16.Ferres

17.McCarthy-Scarsbrook

Does nobody think Purdhams in the mix? He can kick goals as well.