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| Quote HULLMAD="HULLMAD"erm this thread is about Morgans dummy spit because you lost not HULLFC> obsessed
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Do you understand the concept of irony? If so I won't need to point out how a thread about Rovers coach has attracted a majority contribution from fans of your fast-sinking club.
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| To be honest, the forward passes that have been seen in most games, but not giving by the referees lately, have increased.
I thought Thaler wasn't very good when we played Wigan at the JJB on Thursday night, so i can see why Morgan has complained about him.
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| Quote berrigans bitch="berrigans bitch"Sounds totally unprofessional to me:
"I am going to teach my side this week to throw forward passes, stand offside all day and tackle round the head because every time we get him, we get the raw end of the stick. He needs to spend some time learning the rules and getting in a position where he can understand the game better. It is absolutely disgraceful every time we get him. He is not up to this standard at all. He needs to spend some time at another grade, just like my players would.We turned up with the right attitude but got caned by the bloke in the middle and that is not acceptable in my eyes. Next time we get him we know what to expect - a substandard performance. There is no excuse for our errors and I am not saying we deserved to win but there is a very common denominator every time there is a poor game of rugby league and that is Mr Thaler."'"
OI JUSTIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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| Quote rover49="rover49"Its not about his 'moaning' as you put it, but the paying public getting a decent service from referees, I can live with a defeat, in fact if we had any other ref today we would have lost, but this bloke Thaler is far to consistantly rubbish, today was a classic case of how not to referee when teaching new officials.'"
just a quick one here, but if you saw a referee spoil a game but in your teams favour would you still complain about not getting a decent service?
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| Quote meast="meast"just a quick one here, but if you saw a referee spoil a game but in your teams favour would you still complain about not getting a decent service?'"
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I would pat him on his back and say thanks
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| Quote meast="meast"OI JUSTIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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OI MEAST, GET A LIFE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Quote tim2="tim2"I don't think that's new this season. It's certainly correct though. If you are in front of your own team's PTB you are out of play until the next PTB. You cannot be brought back in play like you can if you are offside.'"
Robbie Paul got it wrong and you are right Tim. There was an earlier example of this on the 17th June 2007 in the Hull KR v Saints match at Craven Park when Paul Wellens had a try disallowed for just this reason, he was in front of the play the ball and so was off-side.
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| Quote ladyref="ladyref"Robbie Paul got it wrong and you are right Tim. There was an earlier example of this on the 17th June 2007 in the Hull KR v Saints match at Craven Park when Paul Wellens had a try disallowed for just this reason, he was in front of the play the ball and so was off-side.'"

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Oh dear!
There are way and means of doing things at certain levels but clearly the guy has issues.
Whether or not the match officials are "bad" , in his position a degree of restraint is required.
It is quite probable that the match officials made mistakes, as did Mr Morgan, as did all the players and probably a lot of the spectators as well.
So what!
Life is full of ups and downs, this and that.
It's how you cope with them that matters but sometimes..................
It's a shame because I always thought of him as one of the more personable coaches.
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Oh dear!
There are way and means of doing things at certain levels but clearly the guy has issues.
Whether or not the match officials are "bad" , in his position a degree of restraint is required.
It is quite probable that the match officials made mistakes, as did Mr Morgan, as did all the players and probably a lot of the spectators as well.
So what!
Life is full of ups and downs, this and that.
It's how you cope with them that matters but sometimes..................
It's a shame because I always thought of him as one of the more personable coaches.
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| Quote Leaguefan="Leaguefan"news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/super_league/hull_kr/7999569.stm
Oh dear!
There are way and means of doing things at certain levels but clearly the guy has issues.
Whether or not the match officials are "bad" , in his position a degree of restraint is required.
It is quite probable that the match officials made mistakes, as did Mr Morgan, as did all the players and probably a lot of the spectators as well.
So what!
Life is full of ups and downs, this and that.
It's how you cope with them that matters but sometimes..................
It's a shame because I always thought of him as one of the more personable coaches.'"
The point is, everyone you mentioned above is publicly accountable for their mistakes [iexcept[/i referees. Ben Thaler is shocking, and has been shocking refereeing everyone one of our games previous to this.
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| Justin Morgan has certainly made sure that Mr Thaler won't be reffing them again in the near future. For this Machiavellian manoeuvre - the book should be thrown at Mr Morgan. Who does he think he is? Alex Ferguson?
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| Quote j_hunter_hkr="j_hunter_hkr"The point is, everyone you mentioned above is publicly accountable for their mistakes [iexcept[/i referees..'"
Very good point.
The RFL seem to wrap ref’s up in cotton wool meaning they are immune from criticism.
If they have a bad performance then the coach should have every right to publically speak about it.
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| Quote thepriestman85="thepriestman85"Very good point.
The RFL seem to wrap ref’s up in cotton wool meaning they are immune from criticism.
If they have a bad performance then the coach should have every right to publically speak about it.'"
I agree totally and after being at the game in question I back Justin in what he's said. Thalers inability to keep a consistant 10 metres and complete disregard for the offside rule is just unacceptable at the top level. And after walking off the pitch with a smug grin on his face, whatever fine (if any) Justin has to pay is well worth it if it means Ben Thaler doesn't referee another Rovers game this year and beyond!
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| Quote littlerich="littlerich"Justin Morgan has certainly made sure that Mr Thaler won't be reffing them again in the near future. For this Machiavellian manoeuvre - the book should be thrown at Mr Morgan. Who does he think he is? Alex Ferguson?'"
or daniel anderson?
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| Quote j_hunter_hkr="j_hunter_hkr"I agree totally and after being at the game in question I back Justin in what he's said. Thalers inability to keep a consistant 10 metres and complete disregard for the offside rule is just unacceptable at the top level. And after walking off the pitch with a smug grin on his face, whatever fine (if any) Justin has to pay is well worth it if it means Ben Thaler doesn't referee another Rovers game this year and beyond!'"
If I was the RFL, I'd make a point of appointing Thaler to ref as many Rovers games as possible after Morgan's unprofessional dummy spit.
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| Quote littlerich="littlerich"Justin Morgan has certainly made sure that Mr Thaler won't be reffing them again in the near future. For this Machiavellian manoeuvre - the book should be thrown at Mr Morgan. Who does he think he is? Alex Ferguson?'"
or Daniel Anderson
edit - oops tad beat me to it
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| I agree with Thaler being shocking.
He has been rubbish in every game I've seen him ref us and most of the games I've seen him ref not involving us.
If nothing else it is consistant incompetance.
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| been ok at leeds.there have been far worse than him.suppose we all have bad days. i just think the overall standard isn't great
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| Quote tad rhino="tad rhino"been ok at leeds.there have been far worse than him.suppose we all have bad days. i just think the overall standard isn't great'"
As much as I agree if Morgan felt hard done by a refs performance he has every right to voice his opinion I have to admit I don’t agree with it in regards to Thyler.
I actually commentated after the Wigan vs Saints game that I though he had an excellent performance that night and let the game flow which is more than can be said of other whistle happy refs in the league.
Like you said guess we all have bad days but at least we can admit it compared to ref’s who according to the RFL never put a foot wrong and are backed to the hilt.
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| He cant go round slagging the refs off they got beaten 30- 08 surley the ref didnt miss the tackles that lead to some of the trys, ok fair enough the fans can slag the ref off on here but the coach in a post match interview is wrong, expect a letter from RFL and a £300 fine.
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| that annoys me.greg mcallum used to admit the ref had made an error,they had discussed it and hopefully it wouldn't happen again. no problem for me.
under cummings the most obvious mistake he says the ref was right. he makes himself look stupid
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| Quote those were the days="those were the days"He cant go round slagging the refs off they got beaten 30- 08 surley the ref didnt miss the tackles that lead to some of the trys, ok fair enough the fans can slag the ref off on here but the coach in a post match interview is wrong, expect a letter from RFL and a £300 fine.'"
Huddersfield deserved their win but the ref was shocking, this is what Morgan is trying to say.
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| He's not blamed the referee for our defeat (we lost because we were pretty bad). He's raised a seperate issue of the poor standards we have to put up with week after week from certain officials.
Like I've said a few times, if I was as bad at my job as some of these "professional" referees are at theirs, I'd get sacked immediatley.
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| Quote moxi1="moxi1"Huddersfield deserved their win but the ref was shocking, this is what Morgan is trying to say.'"
[iMorgan claimed, allowing their opponents to get away with "blue murder"[/i
Giving constructive criticism is one thing, insinuating a referee was bias is something completely different. Any validity he had in his claim is overshadowed by quotes like that.
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