Quote ="Mark™"Why do you bother posting? Just lame trolling attempts and sly digs, quite pathetic ">really.'" Why do you answer? Chomp, chomp. icon_wink.gif" alt="icon_wink.gif" title="Wink" />

Quote ="Mark™"Why do you bother posting? Just lame trolling attempts and sly digs, quite pathetic ">really.'" Why do you answer? Chomp, chomp. icon_wink.gif" alt="icon_wink.gif" title="Wink" />

Quote ="Saintly Hopps"Why do you answer? Chomp, chomp. icon_wink.gif" alt="icon_wink.gif" title="Wink" />'" I feel to need to try and help you as I think it's quite shocking and pathetic why a lady should use such language and display herself in such an unpleasant manner, nice use of the chomp phrase.

Quote ="Saintly Hopps"Why do you answer? Chomp, chomp. icon_wink.gif" alt="icon_wink.gif" title="Wink" />'" I feel to need to try and help you as I think it's quite shocking and pathetic why a lady should use such language and display herself in such an unpleasant manner, nice use of the chomp phrase.

Quote ="Mark™"Why do you bother posting? Just lame trolling attempts and sly digs, quite pathetic ">really.'" Because they are shallow and have no existence beyond here and fele compelled to attract attention to themselves by making tangent based comments?

Quote ="Mark™"Why do you bother posting? Just lame trolling attempts and sly digs, quite pathetic ">really.'" Because they are shallow and have no existence beyond here and fele compelled to attract attention to themselves by making tangent based comments?

He was the best winger on the pitch by a mile.

Quote ="Mark™"Jealousy get's you nowhere, we should try and produce players like Hardman. icon_lol.gif" alt="icon_lol.gif" title="Laughing" />'" Hardman is better than Penny icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="icon_rolleyes.gif" title="Rolling Eyes" />

Quote ="Mark™"Jealousy get's you nowhere, we should try and produce players like Hardman. icon_lol.gif" alt="icon_lol.gif" title="Laughing" />'" Hardman is better than Penny icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="icon_rolleyes.gif" title="Rolling Eyes" />

Quote ="Junior12"Hardman is better than Penny icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="icon_rolleyes.gif" title="Rolling Eyes" />'" Good one.

Quote ="Junior12"Hardman is better than Penny icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="icon_rolleyes.gif" title="Rolling Eyes" />'" Good one.

Am I the only one who sees nothing in the guy apart from a good athlete?



I don't mean to be dismissive (The kid is young and could well develop) but to me, he looks out of his depth.



His try against Saints was, IMO, more to do with shoddy defence. Gardner, Gidley and Wellens all could and should have tackled him. Yes, he showed great pace, but that was it.



In defence, he looked very very poor. Twice he just ignored Gardner in the last ten minutes, and I had to laugh when Saints put a bomb up in the first half and he just basketball style knocked it into touch, making no attempt to catch the ball.



I am not writing him off, and hate to criticise young players, but this guy seems to be getting so much love on here, and I just can't see why. It's like Danny McGuire all over again.



Give him some time, and allow him to develop in defence and he could become a good player, he has the athleticsm to do so, but at the moment, I am deeply sceptical.

Quote ="Mark™"Good ">one.'" Ok becasue Penny can score a few trys and has a bit of speed makes him a better player than someone who has good defence, good under the high ball ( unlike Penny ), good positioning ( Penny doesnt have a clue ), good enough attack, can do the basics, and doesnt do much wrong in the full game. I know who i would rather have icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="icon_rolleyes.gif" title="Rolling Eyes" />

Quote ="Mark™"Good ">one.'" Ok becasue Penny can score a few trys and has a bit of speed makes him a better player than someone who has good defence, good under the high ball ( unlike Penny ), good positioning ( Penny doesnt have a clue ), good enough attack, can do the basics, and doesnt do much wrong in the full game. I know who i would rather have icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="icon_rolleyes.gif" title="Rolling Eyes" />

Jordan Tansey is a very good prospect but he isn't the best full back in the world yet.

Quote ="Junior12"Ok becasue Penny can score a few trys and has a bit of speed makes him a better player than someone who has good defence, good under the high ball ( unlike Penny ), good positioning ( Penny doesnt have a clue ), good enough attack, can do the basics, and doesnt do much wrong in the full game. I know who i would rather have icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="icon_rolleyes.gif" title="Rolling Eyes" />'" You're an aboslute imbecile if you think Hardman is anywhere near Penny when it comes to potential. My only gripe with Penny is he is a poor tackler, under the high ball he is safe. He played basketball all his life and seems to have the ability to catch a ball. I suppose a real test will come when he faces a winger who towers above him.

Quote ="Junior12"Ok becasue Penny can score a few trys and has a bit of speed makes him a better player than someone who has good defence, good under the high ball ( unlike Penny ), good positioning ( Penny doesnt have a clue ), good enough attack, can do the basics, and doesnt do much wrong in the full game. I know who i would rather have icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="icon_rolleyes.gif" title="Rolling Eyes" />'" You're an aboslute imbecile if you think Hardman is anywhere near Penny when it comes to potential. My only gripe with Penny is he is a poor tackler, under the high ball he is safe. He played basketball all his life and seems to have the ability to catch a ball. I suppose a real test will come when he faces a winger who towers above him.

Quote ="SophistiChav"You're an aboslute imbecile if you think Hardman is anywhere near Penny when it comes to potential. My only gripe with Penny is he is a poor tackler, under the high ball he is safe. He played basketball all his life and seems to have the ability to catch a ball. I suppose a real test will come when he faces a winger who towers above ">him.'" I didnt say anything about potential, i said Hardman is a better player than Penny.

Quote ="SophistiChav"You're an aboslute imbecile if you think Hardman is anywhere near Penny when it comes to potential. My only gripe with Penny is he is a poor tackler, under the high ball he is safe. He played basketball all his life and seems to have the ability to catch a ball. I suppose a real test will come when he faces a winger who towers above ">him.'" I didnt say anything about potential, i said Hardman is a better player than Penny.

Quote ="Junior12"I didnt say anything about potential, i said Hardman is a better player than ">Penny.'" No he isn't.

Quote ="Junior12"I didnt say anything about potential, i said Hardman is a better player than ">Penny.'" No he isn't.

ok then why isnt he?

Quote ="Junior12"Ok becasue Penny can score a few trys and has a bit of speed makes him a better player than someone who has good defence, good under the high ball ( unlike Penny ), good positioning ( Penny doesnt have a clue ), good enough attack, can do the basics, and doesnt do much wrong in the full game. I know who i would rather have icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="icon_rolleyes.gif" title="Rolling Eyes" />'" Strewth mate get off the lad`s back - sounds like you not happy with a wingman unless he`s got the combined skills of Wally Lewis , Martin Offiah with a little bit of Lockyer thrown in - all I know is that he`s played 2 full games so far in his career and playing against the two top sides in the land he`s managed three tries , that will do for me ...

Quote ="Junior12"Ok becasue Penny can score a few trys and has a bit of speed makes him a better player than someone who has good defence, good under the high ball ( unlike Penny ), good positioning ( Penny doesnt have a clue ), good enough attack, can do the basics, and doesnt do much wrong in the full game. I know who i would rather have icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="icon_rolleyes.gif" title="Rolling Eyes" />'" Strewth mate get off the lad`s back - sounds like you not happy with a wingman unless he`s got the combined skills of Wally Lewis , Martin Offiah with a little bit of Lockyer thrown in - all I know is that he`s played 2 full games so far in his career and playing against the two top sides in the land he`s managed three tries , that will do for me ...

Quote ="Quadrivium"Strewth mate get off the lad`s back - sounds like you not happy with a wingman unless he`s got the combined skills of Wally Lewis , Martin Offiah with a little bit of Lockyer thrown in - all I know is that he`s played 2 full games so far in his career and playing against the two top sides in the land he`s managed three tries , that will do for me ...'" eusa_clap.gif" alt="eusa_clap.gif" title="CLAP" />

Quote ="Quadrivium"Strewth mate get off the lad`s back - sounds like you not happy with a wingman unless he`s got the combined skills of Wally Lewis , Martin Offiah with a little bit of Lockyer thrown in - all I know is that he`s played 2 full games so far in his career and playing against the two top sides in the land he`s managed three tries , that will do for me ...'" eusa_clap.gif" alt="eusa_clap.gif" title="CLAP" />

It's the truth, he is not as good as Ian Hardman!

Ok so he can score a few trys, it's no good when you let the same amount in aswell.

I think has has great potentional, but at the moment IMO all he has is speed.

Quote ="Junior12"It's the truth, he is not as good as Ian Hardman! Ok so he can score a few trys, it's no good when you let the same amount in aswell. I think has has great potentional, but at the moment IMO all he has is ">speed.'" So you are comparing two wingers with 1 having played 2 SL games while the other must have notched up about 30 or so over four seasons? Hmmmm.

Quote ="Junior12"It's the truth, he is not as good as Ian Hardman! Ok so he can score a few trys, it's no good when you let the same amount in aswell. I think has has great potentional, but at the moment IMO all he has is ">speed.'" So you are comparing two wingers with 1 having played 2 SL games while the other must have notched up about 30 or so over four seasons? Hmmmm.

Quote ="Fresh Prince of Chesh-air"So you are comparing two wingers with 1 having played 2 SL games while the other must have notched up about 30 or so over four seasons? ">Hmmmm.'" Yes. Becasue they say Penny is better and i say Hardman is better.

Quote ="Fresh Prince of Chesh-air"So you are comparing two wingers with 1 having played 2 SL games while the other must have notched up about 30 or so over four seasons? ">Hmmmm.'" Yes. Becasue they say Penny is better and i say Hardman is better.

He's fast, he scores tries - he's done EXACTLY what it says on the Wingman's tin. As a neutral, it's a delight to watch some pace again instead of the bulked up lard ar5es we see nowadays steamrollering on the wings. I remember Martin Offiahs early games - he was like bambi on ice and looked way way out of his depth and when he toured with GB to Australia in 1988 he was as raw as sushi but I'd rather see flashes of brilliance and sheer speed as epitomised by Offiah than some pumped up Schwarzenegger huffing and puffing after a 30 yard sprint. Well done Warrington - More Pennies please. icon_smile.gif" alt="icon_smile.gif" title="Smile" />

He's fast, he scores tries - he's done EXACTLY what it says on the Wingman's tin. As a neutral, it's a delight to watch some pace again instead of the bulked up lard ar5es we see nowadays steamrollering on the wings. I remember Martin Offiahs early games - he was like bambi on ice and looked way way out of his depth and when he toured with GB to Australia in 1988 he was as raw as sushi but I'd rather see flashes of brilliance and sheer speed as epitomised by Offiah than some pumped up Schwarzenegger huffing and puffing after a 30 yard sprint. Well done Warrington - More Pennies please. icon_smile.gif" alt="icon_smile.gif" title="Smile" />

you'll note when we play catalan away in a few weeks he'll be know there as kevin Cents*









*not as funny as kevin euro but accurate for comedy purposes(and tb proof)

Quote ="Cat Knowledge"*not as funny as kevin euro but accurate for comedy purposes(and tb proof)'" NOTHING, I say NOTHING is tb proof. icon_smile.gif" alt="icon_smile.gif" title="Smile" />

Quote ="Cat Knowledge"*not as funny as kevin euro but accurate for comedy purposes(and tb proof)'" NOTHING, I say NOTHING is tb proof. icon_smile.gif" alt="icon_smile.gif" title="Smile" />

Surely "Kevin Cent" (singular)? icon_twisted.gif" alt="icon_twisted.gif" title="Twisted Evil" />

Surely "Kevin Cent" (singular)? icon_twisted.gif" alt="icon_twisted.gif" title="Twisted Evil" />

Quote ="tb"Surely "Kevin Cent" (singular)? icon_twisted.gif" alt="icon_twisted.gif" title="Twisted Evil" />'" There you go, as sure as eggs is eggs icon_lol.gif" alt="icon_lol.gif" title="Laughing" />

Quote ="tb"Surely "Kevin Cent" (singular)? icon_twisted.gif" alt="icon_twisted.gif" title="Twisted Evil" />'" There you go, as sure as eggs is eggs icon_lol.gif" alt="icon_lol.gif" title="Laughing" />

If people will offer me a feed line … icon_biggrin.gif" alt="icon_biggrin.gif" title="Very Happy" />

If people will offer me a feed line … icon_biggrin.gif" alt="icon_biggrin.gif" title="Very Happy" />

Quote ="Junior12"Yes. Becasue they say Penny is better and i say Hardman is ">better.'" Is this Ian Hardman the fullback playing on the wing? What is your definition of a winger? Mine is to cross the whitewash, which despite his inexperience is exactly what he is doing. Take off your shortsighted spectacles, Kevin Penny is an out and out winger, Ian Hardman is not.

Quote ="Junior12"Yes. Becasue they say Penny is better and i say Hardman is ">better.'" Is this Ian Hardman the fullback playing on the wing? What is your definition of a winger? Mine is to cross the whitewash, which despite his inexperience is exactly what he is doing. Take off your shortsighted spectacles, Kevin Penny is an out and out winger, Ian Hardman is not.