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| Mebbe he just wanted to make amends for denying Emmett's try?
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Mebbe he just wanted to make amends for denying Emmett's try?'"
The one that was clearly held up?
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"Compared to Gasniers for the other Saints it was a gem and I wouldn't have given Roby's
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Still time to get rid of the video ref system as it is grossly unfair until all the games have it!!!'"
on field refs can make mistakes but he was the Vr and watched it time and again! how the hell can he make a mistake with something as blatant as that?
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| It is a typical Ref's decision where they go for the ''big'' team. It happens all the time
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| Quote ="tad rhino"on field refs can make mistakes but he was the Vr and watched it time and again! how the hell can he make a mistake with something as blatant as that?'"
Yep. I'm perfectly willing to accept mistakes from on-field refs in the heat of the moment with only 1 viewpoint. I'm also willing to accept a "mistake" from a video ref if the video is inconclusive or ball cant be seen and he uses "benefit of the doubt". In this case, the video ref got it wrong with conclusive and obvious video evidence.
That is not acceptable with full time referees. Stuart Cummins should consider his position as this is not an isolated incident and there has been no discernible improvement in on-field refs consistency and in the accuracy of video ref decisions.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"It is a typical Ref's decision where they go for the ''big'' team. It happens all the time'"
but it was only saints
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| That's the first decision that the b*stard Smith has ever given us.
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| the rugby football league dont want warrington to finish 2nd just like they dont want hull to finish 4th
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| Quote ="Lee Tucker FC Fan 2006"the rugby football league dont want warrington to finish 2nd just like they dont want hull to finish 4th
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Very clever bit of psychology there.
You are right about not finishing 4th though. But with a bit of luck you will finish 6th with a home tie against HKR
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| Quote ="HKRKid"The one that was clearly held up?'"
By what? Grass?
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| Quote ="TheOtherOne"By what? Grass?'"
No, the defenders arm. Ball quite clearly didnt go down far enough to touch the ground.
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| An awful decision.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Very clever bit of psychology there.
You are right about not finishing 4th though. But with a bit of luck you will finish 6th with a home tie against HKR
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with the rfl you could see it happening
leeds finish 4th, play wigan at jjb
hull fc finish 6th, play hull kr at the kc
two healthy attendances that will bump up the prize funds and income for the rfl
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| It's one bad call. Think people are over-reacting. After all, it's not like it was a 6 point game.
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| No but the turning point in the game - a crying shame our fantastic game is being made a laughing stock by incompetent match officials. I could see it straight off from the 20m line it was never a try let alone Smith looking at it umpteen times on a TV monitor. What a farce. Standard of refereeing is just abysmal - hardly a game goes by without some contentious decisions - but having a video ref and he getting it so wrong is just criminal.
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| Was a poor decision, nay shocking. Don't think I've seen one as bad
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| Quote ="ExiledWool"Was a poor decision, nay shocking. =#FF0000Don't think I've seen one as bad'"
You obviously didn't see NRL Fulltime on Thursday then
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| Quote ="roversmad"You obviously didn't see NRL Fulltime on Thursday then
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Heard about it but was getting baby ready for bed. Had the game on live but missed it then too
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"It's one bad call. Think people are over-reacting. After all, it's not like it was a 6 point game.'"
It did affect the game somewhat but I get the feeling its made it a 26 point win for Saints, rather than a 12 point one (ish). Crusaders had put in a heck of an effort and it told late on, they were bushed.
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| Quote ="BigRob"No, the defenders arm. Ball quite clearly didnt go down far enough to touch the ground.'"
Clearly?
Did you have another camera angle not available to Smith or the rest of the viewing public?
The only clear thing about it was a clear case of "benefit of doubt"
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| Quote ="HKRKid"The one that was clearly held up?'"
No the one were he got It it down. Or doesnt that fit In with all the [ibull[/i
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| I think we have had the three worst video-referee decisions since it's introduction this year:
Early in season Leeds Rhinos given 'try' (was it JJB?) - even he got up and shook his head!
Then the Liam Watts given 'try' at Castleford.
Now the Roby 'try'.
These are not cases where there is an argument both ways, or that depend on the interpretation of a rule. They are all simply and clearly wrong when looked at within the rules of the game.
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| Its amazing what biterness success causes. Emmitts "No Try" and Robys try evened themselves out. Both were unclear, to the letter of the law both should have been given benefit of the doubt.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"I think we have had the three worst video-referee decisions since it's introduction this year:
Early in season Leeds Rhinos given 'try' (was it JJB?) - even he got up and shook his head!
Then the Liam Watts given 'try' at Castleford.
Now the Roby 'try'.
These are not cases where there is an argument both ways, or that depend on the interpretation of a rule. They are all simply and clearly wrong when looked at within the rules of the game.'"
lautiitis' try against crusaders the first one
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| watts scored fair and square
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