1 St Helens 16 13 0 3 491 272 26

2 Leeds 16 11 0 5 399 249 22

3 Hull KR 16 10 1 5 372 297 21

4 Harlequins RL 15 10 0 5 389 269 20

5 Huddersfield 16 10 0 6 382 269 20

6 Wakefield 17 9 0 8 413 395 18

7 Wigan 17 7 0 10 390 343 14

8 Hull 16 7 0 9 316 371 14

9 Warrington 16 7 0 9 355 413 14

10 Castleford 16 7 0 9 345 421 14

11 Bradford 15 6 1 8 326 375 13

12 Catalans Dragons 15 6 0 9 352 418 12

13 Salford 15 5 0 10 252 433 10

14 Celtic Crusaders 16 2 0 14 240 497 4



And if they beat Leeds by 16 points they will be third and still with a game in hand (against the mighty bulls).

If you are measuring clubs, then what measure are you using?

Everyone knows who the 'top 4 clubs' are.

edited for underage accuracy

Surely the leading 4 sides in the league unless of course you are talking about Leeds, Saints, Hull Kr and Quins

Traditionally you would say Leeds, Bradford, Wigan and Saints. I don't know if that can still be held to be true. Bradford seem to be in possible terminal decline, and Wigan, although still having a very loyal support have hardly been competative since 2002. IMO Hull are currently a "bigger" club than bradford at very least.

The top "4" must be a fluid term as the top 4 will be constantly changing.

It changes. Maybe it's Leeds, Saints, Hull and Bradford atm.. who knows? All I know is that Quins will never be a top 4 club.

what Leeds, Saints, HKR, Quins....then

Quins, HKR, Leeds and Saints

the..........





Seriously, if we did make the 4 (doubt it), then he would have to be there or there abouts...

One thing with the quins is as they get more competative, they will hopefully (for our game as a whole) get more fans and more local lads interested. Saints had about 4 19yr olds out this weekend, all doing really well. Quins have a potential pool of talent around 50x so the players are out there. I really think this is the best chance for Rugby league in London. We should all support it.

Albert.....

is that you