Quote ="JB Down Under"Hang on, I know it is hard for Aussies to give the Kiwis credit but in the last three tournaments: NZ has one two and lost one in extra time. How can you say they are not the Number 1 national team? Yes they lose one off meaningless games mid season but when it comes to putting silverware in the cabinet in recent years it is currently: NZ 2 Australia 1 Eng 0 Australia has the biggest talent pool of players but that means nothing if you don't bring home the ">bacon.'" When you put it like that, i agree. NZ win when it really matters, but look at the head to head over recent times, and it tells a different story. I can always give the Kiwis credit, especially when im English and never get to see my country even come close to winning anything decent...

Quote ="JB Down Under"Hang on, I know it is hard for Aussies to give the Kiwis credit but in the last three tournaments: NZ has one two and lost one in extra time. How can you say they are not the Number 1 national team? Yes they lose one off meaningless games mid season but when it comes to putting silverware in the cabinet in recent years it is currently: NZ 2 Australia 1 Eng 0 Australia has the biggest talent pool of players but that means nothing if you don't bring home the ">bacon.'" When you put it like that, i agree. NZ win when it really matters, but look at the head to head over recent times, and it tells a different story. I can always give the Kiwis credit, especially when im English and never get to see my country even come close to winning anything decent...

Quote ="Bondi_Warrior"But lets face it there are only 3 international teams at a level to form a comp, and 1 of those is miles ahead of the other 2 despite losing the world cup and the less said about England the better. In order to have an international game you need a good amount of teams that can compete against each other. Who other than England and NZ can Australia realistically play against, and even those two wont offer too ">much.'" union has how many proper teams? 5? coupled with failing club competitions ill go with rl. union is so bad in nz and aus, it needed to join together to match the nrl.

Quote ="Bondi_Warrior"But lets face it there are only 3 international teams at a level to form a comp, and 1 of those is miles ahead of the other 2 despite losing the world cup and the less said about England the better. In order to have an international game you need a good amount of teams that can compete against each other. Who other than England and NZ can Australia realistically play against, and even those two wont offer too ">much.'" union has how many proper teams? 5? coupled with failing club competitions ill go with rl. union is so bad in nz and aus, it needed to join together to match the nrl.

Teams that can compete with each other? Way more than the 2 in League. Plenty of competative games this weekend, except the huge blowout my the Aussies against Italy, by a mighty23 points. England wouldnt and didnt come that close on Aussie soil.



Mate everyone knows that Union's strength is at International level. I cant stand Union but i can be realistic in my opinions. Union beats League hands down on the international stage

union has 5 genuine teams, RL has 3.



big deal.



union has minimal credibility at club level in australia, now nz.



load of poop really.



the S14 is a major joke.

international union :



craig gower gets picked for a country he probably doesnt speak the language of, has never lived in and hasnt visited in years.



and japan are looking at fraser anderson

The only players to score for Italy were called Robertson and McClean.