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www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/s">www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/sport/nrl/story/0,26799,25498448-5006066,00.html">www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/s ... 66,00.html
However, the owner of Christchurch's Racecourse Hotel said that while the Cronulla Sharks and Johns were welcome back at the hotel their alleged victim - known only as Clare - was not.
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Hotel owner John Butterfield said that the Sharks squad who stayed there in 2002 were "a great bunch of guys".
He branded their accuser, then a 19-year-old university student who worked at the hotel part time, a liar.
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"She told a whole bunch of lies," said Mr Butterfield, who is the executive director of his Canterbury Hospitality Group.
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"It's buggered Matthew Johns' whole life."
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Mr Butterfield said the woman had crowed to staff about a sexual liaison with two footballers in the men's toilets at the Holy Grail sports bar in the city centre on the Thursday night, the night before the group sex incident.
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However, the owner of Christchurch's Racecourse Hotel said that while the Cronulla Sharks and Johns were welcome back at the hotel their alleged victim - known only as Clare - was not.
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Hotel owner John Butterfield said that the Sharks squad who stayed there in 2002 were "a great bunch of guys".
He branded their accuser, then a 19-year-old university student who worked at the hotel part time, a liar.
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"She told a whole bunch of lies," said Mr Butterfield, who is the executive director of his Canterbury Hospitality Group.
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"It's buggered Matthew Johns' whole life."
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Mr Butterfield said the woman had crowed to staff about a sexual liaison with two footballers in the men's toilets at the Holy Grail sports bar in the city centre on the Thursday night, the night before the group sex incident.
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Quote ="Boris"But since when have employees decided on what they believe is consistent with their 'values' vis-a-vis legal sexual behaviour? If a player was fired for being homosexual, as it was not consistent with the 'values' of the said club. one could only imagine the up roar by the moral police on here!'"
Wake up! They do it all the time. And rightly so.
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For example if a school teacher were found to be taking part in porn films - a legal activity - a scholl would be within its rights to as the teacher to leave.
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If Johns and his team mate had been having sex with a teenage boy in front of 12 onlookers he would have been sacked with no greater uproar.(other than that front the macho heterosexual 'lobby').
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Quote ="Boris"But since when have employees decided on what they believe is consistent with their 'values' vis-a-vis legal sexual behaviour? If a player was fired for being homosexual, as it was not consistent with the 'values' of the said club. one could only imagine the up roar by the moral police on here!'"
Wake up! They do it all the time. And rightly so.
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For example if a school teacher were found to be taking part in porn films - a legal activity - a scholl would be within its rights to as the teacher to leave.
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If Johns and his team mate had been having sex with a teenage boy in front of 12 onlookers he would have been sacked with no greater uproar.(other than that front the macho heterosexual 'lobby').
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Quote ="Marsdengiant"Wake up! They do it all the time. And rightly so. />
For example if a school teacher were found to be taking part in porn films - a legal activity - a scholl would be within its rights to as the teacher to leave. />
If Johns and his team mate had been having sex with a teenage boy in front of 12 onlookers he would have been sacked with no greater uproar.(other than that front the macho heterosexual 'lobby').'"
wow do your posts sound really desperate now the facts are coming out all in favour of johns.
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i almost pity you.
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Quote ="Marsdengiant"Wake up! They do it all the time. And rightly so. />
For example if a school teacher were found to be taking part in porn films - a legal activity - a scholl would be within its rights to as the teacher to leave. />
If Johns and his team mate had been having sex with a teenage boy in front of 12 onlookers he would have been sacked with no greater uproar.(other than that front the macho heterosexual 'lobby').'"
wow do your posts sound really desperate now the facts are coming out all in favour of johns.
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i almost pity you.
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Quote ="dally messenger"wow do your posts sound really desperate now the facts are coming out all in favour of johns. />
i almost pity you. />
almost'"
What a hillbillly like you thinks is not very relevant.
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The desperation on here is yours. Resorting to reporting what Hotel owners say  www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif" alt=" icon_lol.gif" title="Laughing" />
His hotel, his organisation. He freely decides who he does business with. Fine. Likewise channel 9 have that choice.  www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif" alt=" icon_biggrin.gif" title="Very Happy" />
Johns does not dispute the central facts. That he he and a mate banged a teenager with 12 or so people stood around watching. He knows that has devastated his wife and will embarrass his children and others. He also knows that is why organisations like Channel 9 choose not to employ him.
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The fact that you cannot see it and get increasingly desperate amuses many of us. Keep digging....or.......
Learn to live with it banjo boy.  www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif" alt=" icon_biggrin.gif" title="Very Happy" />  www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif" alt=" icon_biggrin.gif" title="Very Happy" />  www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif" alt=" icon_biggrin.gif" title="Very Happy" />
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Quote ="dally messenger"wow do your posts sound really desperate now the facts are coming out all in favour of johns. />
i almost pity you. />
almost'"
What a hillbillly like you thinks is not very relevant.
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The desperation on here is yours. Resorting to reporting what Hotel owners say  www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif" alt=" icon_lol.gif" title="Laughing" />
His hotel, his organisation. He freely decides who he does business with. Fine. Likewise channel 9 have that choice.  www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif" alt=" icon_biggrin.gif" title="Very Happy" />
Johns does not dispute the central facts. That he he and a mate banged a teenager with 12 or so people stood around watching. He knows that has devastated his wife and will embarrass his children and others. He also knows that is why organisations like Channel 9 choose not to employ him.
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The fact that you cannot see it and get increasingly desperate amuses many of us. Keep digging....or.......
Learn to live with it banjo boy.  www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif" alt=" icon_biggrin.gif" title="Very Happy" />  www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif" alt=" icon_biggrin.gif" title="Very Happy" />  www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif" alt=" icon_biggrin.gif" title="Very Happy" />
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''clair'' claimed 5 or 6 sharks came in the bathroom window  www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif" alt=" icon_biggrin.gif" title="Very Happy" /> but the hotel owner said that is impossible . no one can get through those windows  www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif" alt=" icon_lol.gif" title="Laughing" />  www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_confused.gif" alt=" icon_confused.gif" title="Confused" />
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''clair'' claimed 5 or 6 sharks came in the bathroom window  www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif" alt=" icon_biggrin.gif" title="Very Happy" /> but the hotel owner said that is impossible . no one can get through those windows  www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif" alt=" icon_lol.gif" title="Laughing" />  www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_confused.gif" alt=" icon_confused.gif" title="Confused" />
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Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Did you know that the lass said that Matthew Johns was the only one concerned about her and he walked her out to her car ? Apparently she had sex with two Union players the night before.'" />
Not concerned enough to prevent the initial act?
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Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Did you know that the lass said that Matthew Johns was the only one concerned about her and he walked her out to her car ? Apparently she had sex with two Union players the night before.'" />
Not concerned enough to prevent the initial act?
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| Quote ="Eccleshill Rhino"Not concerned enough to prevent the initial act?'"
Consenting adults. It's strange though how she bragged about having sex with RL players and then 5/6 days later she reported it. Roll on 7 years and it gets dragged up again and the Police aren't interested.
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| shes admitted to bonking 4 different footy players in 2 consecutive days, and probably more.
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Quote ="dally messenger"keep adding to it even though the facts are making you look even more silly. />
at this rate youll look as dumb as ER, if thats possible'"
It is - you make me look like Einstein  www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif" alt=" icon_biggrin.gif" title="Very Happy" />
How is Stacey doing by the way!!!
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Quote ="dally messenger"keep adding to it even though the facts are making you look even more silly. />
at this rate youll look as dumb as ER, if thats possible'"
It is - you make me look like Einstein  www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif" alt=" icon_biggrin.gif" title="Very Happy" />
How is Stacey doing by the way!!!
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Quote ="dally messenger"shes admitted to bonking 4 different footy players in 2 consecutive days, and probably more.'" />
Then she reports it a week or so later......
Strange.
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Quote ="dally messenger"shes admitted to bonking 4 different footy players in 2 consecutive days, and probably more.'" />
Then she reports it a week or so later......
Strange.
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Quote ="dally messenger"keep adding to it even though the facts are making you look even more silly. />
at this rate youll look as dumb as ER, if thats possible'"
Is that the best you've got banjo boy?
Sadly, it is.  www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif" alt=" icon_biggrin.gif" title="Very Happy" />
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Quote ="dally messenger"keep adding to it even though the facts are making you look even more silly. />
at this rate youll look as dumb as ER, if thats possible'"
Is that the best you've got banjo boy?
Sadly, it is.  www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif" alt=" icon_biggrin.gif" title="Very Happy" />
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Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Consenting adults. It's strange though how she bragged about having sex with RL players and then 5/6 days later she reported it. Roll on 7 years and it gets dragged up again and the Police aren't interested.'" />
OK so if this is the norm why is Johns appearing to be so upset about the whole incident - can't understand that?
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Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Consenting adults. It's strange though how she bragged about having sex with RL players and then 5/6 days later she reported it. Roll on 7 years and it gets dragged up again and the Police aren't interested.'" />
OK so if this is the norm why is Johns appearing to be so upset about the whole incident - can't understand that?
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Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Then she reports it a week or so later......
Strange.'" />
she was bragging about it the next day to work mates but the only problem was she couldnt remember how many shed slept with
then she lies about them sneaking in through the window.
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ive always maintained from the start that the problem is the poor girl can accept what shes done in her younger days as she now is married and wants to look better in front of her husband who has found out about her past
rather than just admitting the truth to hubby, shes trying to blame the players for it
there are loads of girls who throw themselvs at celebrities.
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nobody forces them
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Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Then she reports it a week or so later......
Strange.'" />
she was bragging about it the next day to work mates but the only problem was she couldnt remember how many shed slept with
then she lies about them sneaking in through the window.
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ive always maintained from the start that the problem is the poor girl can accept what shes done in her younger days as she now is married and wants to look better in front of her husband who has found out about her past
rather than just admitting the truth to hubby, shes trying to blame the players for it
there are loads of girls who throw themselvs at celebrities.
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nobody forces them
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Quote ="Marsdengiant"Is that the best you've got banjo boy?
Sadly, it is.
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saying you are as dumb as ER is almost as bad as i can get.
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saying hes as thick as a plank is disrespectful to planks
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Quote ="Marsdengiant"Is that the best you've got banjo boy?
Sadly, it is.
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saying you are as dumb as ER is almost as bad as i can get.
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saying hes as thick as a plank is disrespectful to planks
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| Quote ="Eccleshill Rhino"OK so if this is the norm why is Johns appearing to be so upset about the whole incident - can't understand that?'"
That will be because it was dealt with by the Police 7 years ago. He admitted to his wife what he had done and she stuck by him. Then 7 years later it was dragged out again. The Police aren't interested now as there is nothing to go over in their eyes but not for a TV programme that deals with it.
How's that - have I explained it clearly enough for you ?
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Quote ="dally messenger"she was bragging about it the next day to work mates but the only problem was she couldnt remember how many shed slept with
then she lies about them sneaking in through the window. />
ive always maintained from the start that the problem is the poor girl can accept what shes done in her younger days as she now is married and wants to look better in front of her husband who has found out about her past
rather than just admitting the truth to hubby, shes trying to blame the players for it
there are loads of girls who throw themselvs at celebrities. />
nobody forces them'"
Nobody forces the celebrities/players either!!! Just because a girls says have sex with me it doesn't mean you have to say yes - especially if you have any respect for your wife!!!
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Quote ="dally messenger"she was bragging about it the next day to work mates but the only problem was she couldnt remember how many shed slept with
then she lies about them sneaking in through the window. />
ive always maintained from the start that the problem is the poor girl can accept what shes done in her younger days as she now is married and wants to look better in front of her husband who has found out about her past
rather than just admitting the truth to hubby, shes trying to blame the players for it
there are loads of girls who throw themselvs at celebrities. />
nobody forces them'"
Nobody forces the celebrities/players either!!! Just because a girls says have sex with me it doesn't mean you have to say yes - especially if you have any respect for your wife!!!
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Quote ="Dead Man Walking"That will be because it was dealt with by the Police 7 years ago. He admitted to his wife what he had done and she stuck by him. Then 7 years later it was dragged out again. The Police aren't interested now as there is nothing to go over in their eyes but not for a TV programme that deals with it.
How's that - have I explained it clearly enough for you ?'"
hes deaf and dumb.
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Quote ="Dead Man Walking"That will be because it was dealt with by the Police 7 years ago. He admitted to his wife what he had done and she stuck by him. Then 7 years later it was dragged out again. The Police aren't interested now as there is nothing to go over in their eyes but not for a TV programme that deals with it.
How's that - have I explained it clearly enough for you ?'"
hes deaf and dumb.
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so shout and use brail.
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Quote ="dally messenger"saying you are as dumb as ER is almost as bad as i can get. />
saying hes as thick as a plank is disrespectful to planks'"
An ameoba has more brains than you - something you display with every post.
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Any half backs make 30 tackles this week?
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Quote ="dally messenger"saying you are as dumb as ER is almost as bad as i can get. />
saying hes as thick as a plank is disrespectful to planks'"
An ameoba has more brains than you - something you display with every post.
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Any half backs make 30 tackles this week?
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Quote ="Eccleshill Rhino"An ameoba has more brains than you - something you display with every post. />
Any half backs make 30 tackles this week?'"
i dont need to spend time with sea life, ive got human friends.
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Any half backs make 30 tackles this week?'"
i dont need to spend time with sea life, ive got human friends.
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maybe if you had the same that were RL fans, youd have a clue about the game.
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How's that - have I explained it clearly enough for you ?'"
OK so his past has come back to haunt him - a huge mistake he made showing his macho masculinity off to his team mates has now unsuprisingly cost him the job he obviously loves - pity he did not have the common sense/class to rise above up it all the time - does that explain matter in a way you can comprehend?
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Quote ="dally messenger"i dont need to spend time with sea life, ive got human friends. />
maybe if you had the same that were RL fans, youd have a clue about the game.'" />
Mate you spend so much time on here you can't have any mates - I can't beleive anyone would admit to being a mate of yours  www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif" alt=" icon_biggrin.gif" title="Very Happy" />
As for knowledge of the game - read your posts back you haven't got a clue
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maybe if you had the same that were RL fans, youd have a clue about the game.'" />
Mate you spend so much time on here you can't have any mates - I can't beleive anyone would admit to being a mate of yours  www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif" alt=" icon_biggrin.gif" title="Very Happy" />
As for knowledge of the game - read your posts back you haven't got a clue
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Quote ="Eccleshill Rhino"Mate you spend so much time on here you can't have any mates - I can't beleive anyone would admit to being a mate of yours
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As for knowledge of the game - read your posts back you haven't got a clue'"
the funniest thing is you admit to watching the nrl quite a bit and then post the way you do.
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for those that dont know this includes :
1. questioning nathan hindmarshs tackling ability.
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2. saying stacey jones was too old to return to the nrl.
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Quote ="Eccleshill Rhino"Mate you spend so much time on here you can't have any mates - I can't beleive anyone would admit to being a mate of yours
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As for knowledge of the game - read your posts back you haven't got a clue'"
the funniest thing is you admit to watching the nrl quite a bit and then post the way you do.
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for those that dont know this includes :
1. questioning nathan hindmarshs tackling ability.
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2. saying stacey jones was too old to return to the nrl.
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