But what I'm saying is that short term spikes in crowds, whilst encouraging, aren't a sign of success there. If they can hold a decent average above 4k great. If they can improve and not finish bottom again great. Look at Catalans, how long did it take them to be a play off side? 2 seasons?

yes they are a sign of success.



If you market a game well there is a short term spike in crowds. If you continue to market it well there that short term spike becomes a long term trend.

Well they are starting in the right places. They are running a tag tournament for primary school children on Friday afternoon. Get the kids interested and the parents will follow. Make them feel valued and welome and it will provide a base.

Half is being a bit optimistic





The Crusaders will go the way of PSG by 2012 at the very latest

Thats the concern. A 7-10k crowd for the first game, followed by 1,500 the next isn't positive.

It is for those backing Widnes.

Ohhh how fickle the Hull KR fans are, haven't even played a game this season and swapped teams. Why don't you support the other Hull team it'll mean less travelling for you?

Still a Rovers fan, just have also got an interest in seeing Widnes take their rightful place in SL asap too.

There, there now run along

Time will tell eh.

if you're that concerend your club could always give up their place

Widnes DO NOT have a RIGHTFUL place in SL!!!!



In fact no team has a RIGHTFUL place it's just how the system works at anyone time plus being a GOOD team helps (maybe!)

Careful Leaguefan don't bring logic into it as it will only confuse him

Be careful , the ice must be very thin by now round your way

after leeds win the WCC they'll be celebrating that hard they won't even have time to think about the crusaders game.





so crusaders by 10

Nice thoughts but we're playing them before the WCC game

When the club are rumoured to have sold more season tickets than the football club who have sold around 1,600 it would be some feat to knock 100 of the season ticket sales number I must say.

just how popular would the game get in wales if they actually started winning,probably more people will take notice and turn up even in bigger numbers .

Cracking Album..

If these are accurate reports then one wonders why on earth the Crusaders were located in South Wales in the first place, when it is clearly the wrong location.



If, after the whole series of cock ups the club has been subjected to, they are still able to sell out the first match and in a matter of weeks sell in excess of 1600 season tickets for essentially a new venture there is clearly a fan base sufficient to sustain a SL level club in the North of Wales.

So it would seem Bill , it makes me wonder why us Championship clubs bother

What on Earth are you going on about? Is there any logic whatsoever to your ramblings?

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