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Salford RL missed their chance to be the home of spectating on live sport when Manchester United turned their back on their local fans in the 2000s as tickets became like gold dust.
While the football club chased the big dollar spent in the club shop by fans far afield and gentrified the atmosphere, Salford RL could've grabbed those locally who were alienated if they had moved quickly.
Now it's too late as Salford City and the class of 92 plus FC United of Manchester have moved in to cash in on that crowd.
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Quote ="SmokeyTA"I really dont. It's not 1901 anymore. What parish you are from doesn't matter.
I have however enjoyed watching swing wildly from arguing that the game doesn't struggle under the yoke of the parochialism of small northern towns and cities to a full blooded vociferous defence of the borders, separation and independence of those same small northern towns and cities like the incompatability of those two ideas never even entered your head. Cognitive dissonance in action.
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You really do, the fact that you keep posting kind of proves it, otherwise why would anyone, even you, bother?
Your second paragraph doesn't make any sense at all, who have you "enjoyed watching swing wildly"? If it is aimed at me, I am quite comfortable that my posts, whether you agree with them or not and I would guess that you don't, have at least been consistent and generally applied to the original proposition "Why has RL never taken off in Manchester and Liverpool"? Because there isn't enough interest in case you need a reminder
Apart from a much needed Geography lesson, as far as "swinging wildly" is concerned, we have endured all sorts of nonsense from you and others about how many Germans will or won't follow Keinhorst into RL in the Leeds area and whether he went to secondary school near Pudsey and only got into Rugby League after playing Union at University and if Headingly had less Jewish students.....
You obviously enjoy arguing and I will concede that you are fairly good at it, particularly if the argument becomes a test of perseverance and boring your 'opponent' into submission by taking the debate down endless rabbit holes. However, the game is up on this occasion, no mildly offensive "you're stupid" or "you just don't understand" will cover up the fact that you simply do not know what you are talking about. |
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Quote ="SmokeyTA"I really dont. It's not 1901 anymore. What parish you are from doesn't matter.
I have however enjoyed watching swing wildly from arguing that the game doesn't struggle under the yoke of the parochialism of small northern towns and cities to a full blooded vociferous defence of the borders, separation and independence of those same small northern towns and cities like the incompatability of those two ideas never even entered your head. Cognitive dissonance in action.
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You really do, the fact that you keep posting kind of proves it, otherwise why would anyone, even you, bother?
Your second paragraph doesn't make any sense at all, who have you "enjoyed watching swing wildly"? If it is aimed at me, I am quite comfortable that my posts, whether you agree with them or not and I would guess that you don't, have at least been consistent and generally applied to the original proposition "Why has RL never taken off in Manchester and Liverpool"? Because there isn't enough interest in case you need a reminder
Apart from a much needed Geography lesson, as far as "swinging wildly" is concerned, we have endured all sorts of nonsense from you and others about how many Germans will or won't follow Keinhorst into RL in the Leeds area and whether he went to secondary school near Pudsey and only got into Rugby League after playing Union at University and if Headingly had less Jewish students.....
You obviously enjoy arguing and I will concede that you are fairly good at it, particularly if the argument becomes a test of perseverance and boring your 'opponent' into submission by taking the debate down endless rabbit holes. However, the game is up on this occasion, no mildly offensive "you're stupid" or "you just don't understand" will cover up the fact that you simply do not know what you are talking about. | |
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Quote ="Hillbilly_Red"uncle Rico, we have disagreed in the past but here you are 100% correct.
So, according to the Tykes, the parochialism of the 10 boroughs in Greater Manchester is something to despise and decry; and the effect of 8 professional football sides* (and a battery of non-professional sides) is to ignored. Amazing that pride in your community, a corner stone of RL in its heritage, can be so snidely commented on. Ignoring the obvious difference in accents between Salford and manchester (albeit many young men now copy a Gallagher-type patois for street cred), that Oldham and Bolton never ever consider themselves as Manchester (and as for Wigan... ).
Nobody on here has shown that the perceptions are wrong. So how do we use them?
* I include ">Stockport.'"
Hillbilly, we have disagreed and that's only natural as people will have differences of opinion, but, I would hope that it was a disagreement based on some semblance of facts, or each others interpretation of them? I know what is was about and think that we just agreed to disagree, no name calling or "swinging wildly" to create a different never ending argument?
Funny how our co correspondent, named all of these Rugby League places in Manchester yet left out Rochdale how is it in 'them thar' hills, hope you're Ok on the outside of Manchester?
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Quote ="Hillbilly_Red"uncle Rico, we have disagreed in the past but here you are 100% correct.
So, according to the Tykes, the parochialism of the 10 boroughs in Greater Manchester is something to despise and decry; and the effect of 8 professional football sides* (and a battery of non-professional sides) is to ignored. Amazing that pride in your community, a corner stone of RL in its heritage, can be so snidely commented on. Ignoring the obvious difference in accents between Salford and manchester (albeit many young men now copy a Gallagher-type patois for street cred), that Oldham and Bolton never ever consider themselves as Manchester (and as for Wigan... ).
Nobody on here has shown that the perceptions are wrong. So how do we use them?
* I include ">Stockport.'"
Hillbilly, we have disagreed and that's only natural as people will have differences of opinion, but, I would hope that it was a disagreement based on some semblance of facts, or each others interpretation of them? I know what is was about and think that we just agreed to disagree, no name calling or "swinging wildly" to create a different never ending argument?
Funny how our co correspondent, named all of these Rugby League places in Manchester yet left out Rochdale how is it in 'them thar' hills, hope you're Ok on the outside of Manchester?
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Quote ="Uncle Rico"You really do, the fact that you keep posting kind of proves it, otherwise why would anyone, even you, bother?'" the growth of rugby league and the geography of Manchester are different topics. One i care about, the other i dont.
Quote Your second paragraph doesn't make any sense at all, who have you "enjoyed watching swing wildly"? If it is aimed at me, I am quite comfortable that my posts, whether you agree with them or not and I would guess that you don't, have at least been consistent and generally applied to the original proposition "Why has RL never taken off in Manchester and Liverpool"? Because there isn't enough interest in case you need a reminder '" See you did understand. Seems a strange tactic, though common in those from Manchester, to pretend they don't understand things they do.
Quote Apart from a much needed Geography lesson, as far as "swinging wildly" is concerned, we have endured all sorts of nonsense from you and others about how many Germans will or won't follow Keinhorst into RL in the Leeds area and whether he went to secondary school near Pudsey and only got into Rugby League after playing Union at University and if Headingly had less Jewish students.....
You obviously enjoy arguing and I will concede that you are fairly good at it, particularly if the argument becomes a test of perseverance and boring your 'opponent' into submission by taking the debate down endless rabbit holes. However, the game is up on this occasion, no mildly offensive "you're stupid" or "you just don't understand" will cover up the fact that you simply do not know what you are talking I">about.'" |
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Quote ="Uncle Rico"You really do, the fact that you keep posting kind of proves it, otherwise why would anyone, even you, bother?'" the growth of rugby league and the geography of Manchester are different topics. One i care about, the other i dont.
Quote Your second paragraph doesn't make any sense at all, who have you "enjoyed watching swing wildly"? If it is aimed at me, I am quite comfortable that my posts, whether you agree with them or not and I would guess that you don't, have at least been consistent and generally applied to the original proposition "Why has RL never taken off in Manchester and Liverpool"? Because there isn't enough interest in case you need a reminder '" See you did understand. Seems a strange tactic, though common in those from Manchester, to pretend they don't understand things they do.
Quote Apart from a much needed Geography lesson, as far as "swinging wildly" is concerned, we have endured all sorts of nonsense from you and others about how many Germans will or won't follow Keinhorst into RL in the Leeds area and whether he went to secondary school near Pudsey and only got into Rugby League after playing Union at University and if Headingly had less Jewish students.....
You obviously enjoy arguing and I will concede that you are fairly good at it, particularly if the argument becomes a test of perseverance and boring your 'opponent' into submission by taking the debate down endless rabbit holes. However, the game is up on this occasion, no mildly offensive "you're stupid" or "you just don't understand" will cover up the fact that you simply do not know what you are talking I">about.'" | |
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Soccer is easier to understand, which is why it is popular!
RL has always been innovative to keep it's crowds but it is a game where being able to think is important.
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