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Quote ="FearTheVee"Remind me, which dangerous play / disciplinary decisions in our favour were scandalous in those games?
McManus is spot on. If that statement had been released jointly by all chairman to remove reference to and bias for/against saints, everyone would agree with every ">word.'"
You're probably right, and maybe if Mr McManus and a few of the other chairman had backed Neil Hudgell when he spoke out against the disciplinary system not being fit for purpose last year we'd maybe have got somewhere as a united force. But he didn't as saints were obviously getting the rub of the green whereas now this matter affects them. The disciplinary system is a farce, some refereeing performances are ruining the game but its not just started happening!!
On this occasion the ref missed the incident, it was picked up and Green got a two match ban. I don't think Mr McManus would've been shouting so loud had the boot been on the other foot. Think your players truly are going to have to be saints now thanks to his outburst
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Quote ="FearTheVee"Remind me, which dangerous play / disciplinary decisions in our favour were scandalous in those games?
McManus is spot on. If that statement had been released jointly by all chairman to remove reference to and bias for/against saints, everyone would agree with every ">word.'"
You're probably right, and maybe if Mr McManus and a few of the other chairman had backed Neil Hudgell when he spoke out against the disciplinary system not being fit for purpose last year we'd maybe have got somewhere as a united force. But he didn't as saints were obviously getting the rub of the green whereas now this matter affects them. The disciplinary system is a farce, some refereeing performances are ruining the game but its not just started happening!!
On this occasion the ref missed the incident, it was picked up and Green got a two match ban. I don't think Mr McManus would've been shouting so loud had the boot been on the other foot. Think your players truly are going to have to be saints now thanks to his outburst
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Quote ="Him"No, he's a Rhino's player alongside Rob Burrows and Danny ">Maguire.'"
That doesn't really work, does it?
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Quote ="Him"No, he's a Rhino's player alongside Rob Burrows and Danny ">Maguire.'"
That doesn't really work, does it?
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Quote ="Orrell Lad"Saints the new moaning club? Looks like winning silverware again after so long has gone to their ">heads.'"
Did you notice the crusher tackle on an FC player tonight that went entirely unpunished? Amor was binned for 10 and then banned for two matches for a crusher earlier in the season. All of a sudden, and from nowhere, the cards have stopped being shown. We never know where we are with the rules as fans, it must be very confusing for players.
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Quote ="Orrell Lad"Saints the new moaning club? Looks like winning silverware again after so long has gone to their ">heads.'"
Did you notice the crusher tackle on an FC player tonight that went entirely unpunished? Amor was binned for 10 and then banned for two matches for a crusher earlier in the season. All of a sudden, and from nowhere, the cards have stopped being shown. We never know where we are with the rules as fans, it must be very confusing for players.
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Quote ="SaintsFan"Did you notice the crusher tackle on an FC player tonight that went entirely unpunished? Amor was binned for 10 and then banned for two matches for a crusher earlier in the season. All of a sudden, and from nowhere, the cards have stopped being shown. We never know where we are with the rules as fans, it must be very confusing for ">players.'"
Still bitter?
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Quote ="SaintsFan"Did you notice the crusher tackle on an FC player tonight that went entirely unpunished? Amor was binned for 10 and then banned for two matches for a crusher earlier in the season. All of a sudden, and from nowhere, the cards have stopped being shown. We never know where we are with the rules as fans, it must be very confusing for ">players.'"
Still bitter?
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Quote ="BackrowSaint"Does he play for the same team as Sam Tompkins?'"
Not my fault he doesn't know how to spell John.  icon_cool.gif" alt="icon_cool.gif" title="Cool" />
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Quote ="BackrowSaint"Does he play for the same team as Sam Tompkins?'"
Not my fault he doesn't know how to spell John.  icon_cool.gif" alt="icon_cool.gif" title="Cool" />
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Quote ="SmokeyTA"Why are the RFL thinking that a shoulder charge that hits the shoulder then fractures a cheekbone is any more acceptable than one which directly hits the head and fractures a cheekbone.
This is a systemic issue and McManus, along with Hetherington and a few others before him, are right to bring it up. The way referees are handled and the disciplinary process itself has become an exercise in PR rather than a good process.
Offenses and their grading have become an opportunity for wiggle room and not an attempt at consistency and this offence is a good example of it.
Rather than asking what did Green do and how many matches does it deserve, they ask where can we introduce uncertainty to protect the referee.
Green had to go. It should have been a simple decision. He should have got a few matches and it should have been a simple ">decision.'"
So that's a strong case for reviewing the current grading system. However, within the system as it currently stands the punishment was correct.
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Quote ="SmokeyTA"Why are the RFL thinking that a shoulder charge that hits the shoulder then fractures a cheekbone is any more acceptable than one which directly hits the head and fractures a cheekbone.
This is a systemic issue and McManus, along with Hetherington and a few others before him, are right to bring it up. The way referees are handled and the disciplinary process itself has become an exercise in PR rather than a good process.
Offenses and their grading have become an opportunity for wiggle room and not an attempt at consistency and this offence is a good example of it.
Rather than asking what did Green do and how many matches does it deserve, they ask where can we introduce uncertainty to protect the referee.
Green had to go. It should have been a simple decision. He should have got a few matches and it should have been a simple ">decision.'"
So that's a strong case for reviewing the current grading system. However, within the system as it currently stands the punishment was correct.
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