I don't like listening to Stevo, but I did laugh rather a lot at a phrase he used to describe the forwards failing breaking the line; "They didn’t have enough penetration by the forwards down the middle." Written down, it is of my favourite things to read. It just flows, but with an intriguing message. icon_lol.gif" alt="icon_lol.gif" title="Laughing" />

I don't like listening to Stevo, but I did laugh rather a lot at a phrase he used to describe the forwards failing breaking the line; "They didn’t have enough penetration by the forwards down the middle." Written down, it is of my favourite things to read. It just flows, but with an intriguing message. icon_lol.gif" alt="icon_lol.gif" title="Laughing" />

Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"No, not really, because not much of that is anything to do with forwarding the game at all. Stevo's try was superbly set up by Sullivan & Lockwood, it secured the draw which we needed, it has however no bearing on the game nor has improved it through that try, nor has leading Dewsbury to a championship win, nor has his alledged bringing set plays to Australia. The Heritage centre/Museum managed to get into financial difficulties for various reasons, I applaud his efforts but hardly a big deal in the grand scheme of things, certainly not a big enough deal that fans went flocking to it but whatever a good effort. Countless amatuer clubs & charities, rugby charities? I wouldn't know about him personally dipping into his pocket but I've given money to various rugby clubs (pro & amatuer) & rugby charities plus given plenty of hours as a volunteer & dipping into my own pocket to help my own club so does that mean I've contributed to the game in a notable way, no, not really because many hundreds/thousands do the same week in, week out. I respect that he played the game at the highest level, I respect the fact he is enthusiastic about the sport but in reality he has done nothing to forward the sport of any note, in fact after watching his inadequate/embaressing 'discussion' with Stuart Barnes on the League V Union switching, it was cringeworthy at best and made him look like a buffoon at worst. His 'commentary' is more like inane musings, it's a total put off for pretty much everyone but we have little choice other than to switch to a local radio station or mute it which is a double edged sword. There is no real 'commentary' in the real sense though Hemmings is just about okay though never really did a commentating apprentice in the true fashion and was really just a sports reporter for Radio Merseyside. I'd rather have someone from one of the regional stations whom actually can describe the game properly with a modern 'Stevo' summerising in between a la Brian ">Noble.'" Pathetic.

Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"No, not really, because not much of that is anything to do with forwarding the game at all. Stevo's try was superbly set up by Sullivan & Lockwood, it secured the draw which we needed, it has however no bearing on the game nor has improved it through that try, nor has leading Dewsbury to a championship win, nor has his alledged bringing set plays to Australia. The Heritage centre/Museum managed to get into financial difficulties for various reasons, I applaud his efforts but hardly a big deal in the grand scheme of things, certainly not a big enough deal that fans went flocking to it but whatever a good effort. Countless amatuer clubs & charities, rugby charities? I wouldn't know about him personally dipping into his pocket but I've given money to various rugby clubs (pro & amatuer) & rugby charities plus given plenty of hours as a volunteer & dipping into my own pocket to help my own club so does that mean I've contributed to the game in a notable way, no, not really because many hundreds/thousands do the same week in, week out. I respect that he played the game at the highest level, I respect the fact he is enthusiastic about the sport but in reality he has done nothing to forward the sport of any note, in fact after watching his inadequate/embaressing 'discussion' with Stuart Barnes on the League V Union switching, it was cringeworthy at best and made him look like a buffoon at worst. His 'commentary' is more like inane musings, it's a total put off for pretty much everyone but we have little choice other than to switch to a local radio station or mute it which is a double edged sword. There is no real 'commentary' in the real sense though Hemmings is just about okay though never really did a commentating apprentice in the true fashion and was really just a sports reporter for Radio Merseyside. I'd rather have someone from one of the regional stations whom actually can describe the game properly with a modern 'Stevo' summerising in between a la Brian ">Noble.'" Pathetic.

Quote ="Ganson's Optician" ">Pathetic.'" LOL, so you've no actual comeback to that then, is that because I'm right and you're wrong and you've no way of actually showing what Mike Stephenson has contributed to RL aside from his playing credentials (he got paid for that and it was his job btw) and a few handouts to amateur rugby league teams that thousands of people across the country do week in week out? What of that is incorrect/inaccurate? So, I ask again, what has Mike Stephenson ACTUALLY done for the game of RL over and above many others that has a positive contribution to the sport as a whole. I've given him credit for backing the heritage museum, so what is left??? You going to say his devotion to sporting commentary/summerising, purleeease, he gets paid a lot of money to spout a load of old crap and has done for years. I can't even say he's past it because he was never there to begin with as he's always being shockingly poor throughout..got lucky on the back of his past career, nothing more. So come on, please come up with a better comeback than 'pathetic' which is what your response was... icon_lol.gif" alt="icon_lol.gif" title="Laughing" />

Quote ="Ganson's Optician" ">Pathetic.'" LOL, so you've no actual comeback to that then, is that because I'm right and you're wrong and you've no way of actually showing what Mike Stephenson has contributed to RL aside from his playing credentials (he got paid for that and it was his job btw) and a few handouts to amateur rugby league teams that thousands of people across the country do week in week out? What of that is incorrect/inaccurate? So, I ask again, what has Mike Stephenson ACTUALLY done for the game of RL over and above many others that has a positive contribution to the sport as a whole. I've given him credit for backing the heritage museum, so what is left??? You going to say his devotion to sporting commentary/summerising, purleeease, he gets paid a lot of money to spout a load of old crap and has done for years. I can't even say he's past it because he was never there to begin with as he's always being shockingly poor throughout..got lucky on the back of his past career, nothing more. So come on, please come up with a better comeback than 'pathetic' which is what your response was... icon_lol.gif" alt="icon_lol.gif" title="Laughing" />

Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"LOL, so you've no actual comeback to that then, is that because I'm right and you're wrong and you've no way of actually showing what Mike Stephenson has contributed to RL aside from his playing credentials (he got paid for that and it was his job btw) and a few handouts to amateur rugby league teams that thousands of people across the country do week in week out? What of that is incorrect/inaccurate? So, I ask again, what has Mike Stephenson ACTUALLY done for the game of RL over and above many others that has a positive contribution to the sport as a whole. I've given him credit for backing the heritage museum, so what is left??? You going to say his devotion to sporting commentary/summerising, purleeease, he gets paid a lot of money to spout a load of old crap and has done for years. I can't even say he's past it because he was never there to begin with as he's always being shockingly poor throughout..got lucky on the back of his past career, nothing more. So come on, please come up with a better comeback than 'pathetic' which is what your response was... icon_lol.gif" alt="icon_lol.gif" title="Laughing" />'" You asked what he had done and I gave you answers, to which you made peurile attempts at dismissing each one. I have much better things to do with my time on a Sunday afternoon fortunately!

Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"LOL, so you've no actual comeback to that then, is that because I'm right and you're wrong and you've no way of actually showing what Mike Stephenson has contributed to RL aside from his playing credentials (he got paid for that and it was his job btw) and a few handouts to amateur rugby league teams that thousands of people across the country do week in week out? What of that is incorrect/inaccurate? So, I ask again, what has Mike Stephenson ACTUALLY done for the game of RL over and above many others that has a positive contribution to the sport as a whole. I've given him credit for backing the heritage museum, so what is left??? You going to say his devotion to sporting commentary/summerising, purleeease, he gets paid a lot of money to spout a load of old crap and has done for years. I can't even say he's past it because he was never there to begin with as he's always being shockingly poor throughout..got lucky on the back of his past career, nothing more. So come on, please come up with a better comeback than 'pathetic' which is what your response was... icon_lol.gif" alt="icon_lol.gif" title="Laughing" />'" You asked what he had done and I gave you answers, to which you made peurile attempts at dismissing each one. I have much better things to do with my time on a Sunday afternoon fortunately!

I think that Stevo often gets stuck about what to say hence the amount of rubbish/invention he comes out with. At least he is contradicted by the other commentators who clearly disagree with him - they too are not always blameless.



Stevo aside my big moan is about radio commentaries.



I recently crossed radio boundaries from Hull to Leeds and Manchester whist listening to game commentaries.

I would like to know from the radio where on the pitch the team in possession are, which player has the ball, which number tackle of the six and regular score updates. I realise that there are stoppages and then I am happy to listen to chit chat until the game gets going but please commentators keep me informed!



An example of my issues about radio commentaries is when listening to a Salford versus Widnes game last season at one point of what sounded like strong Widnes attacking the commentator announced that Widnes were one yard from the Salford line. He then immediately announced that "this is Radio Manchester on frequency blah, blah, blah......." then never mentioned the specifics of the game for approx a minute when he finally mentioned a scrum on the 20 metre line. Clearly there was no score at that time but they never commented on the missing detail.



I accept the local support aspects of radio commentaries and even enjoy the bias sometimes but please can they keep me informed.

For the last couple of seasons i have watched the Sky coverage, but listened to any radio coverage i could find. I found that increasingly i was just listening to the radio.. I have not renewed Sky Sports this year, and i'm not missing it thus far.