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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"Is this what you do know? Dance around facts that don’t agree with you and pretend they are straw men?
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Ahhhh, the old 'facts' chestnut.
I can show you that right now, 5 games have been played and I can provide you with the 5 attendances for those games.
Quote SmokeyTACan you provide any evidence whatsoever to counteract the reported fact that over 45k people attended the England v Australia game and 45k people attended the Italy v Wales game?'" '"
That is not fact, the only fact is that 45k+ was the declared as the attendance. It is certainly not a fact that 45k+ attended both games by the same logic 45k+ also watched the opening ceremony why not include that in the figure? Say a music festival takes 80000 pass through the gates, 10 different acts perform was the attendance for the festival 80000 or 800000 ? The same goes for tennis, boxing, athletics, RU, cricket, martial arts. Standard practice is to count it as a single attendance.
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| Quote William Eve="William Eve"If we count Cardiff, Wembley and all the rest as events instead...
RLWC2013 Aggregate Attendance = 457,133
Number of events = 26
Average Attendance = 17,582
RLWC1995 Aggregate Attendance = 265,609
Number of games = 15
Average Attendance = 17,707
The full-priced 1995 World Cup average attendance is still higher than the average attendance at the half-priced discount on the already heavily discounted 2013 World Cup.'"
Let's just have a final instead then. That would surely be better. The average could then be just 74,500. | | | |
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There's not a mathematician, a level maths student, GCSE maths student, 11year old of a normal iq who would divide 28 data points by 26 and call it an average. The fact there are only 2 people doing so, and those two people have spent months before the WC telling us all how terrible it would be and how nobody would attend pretty much tells us all we need to know.
Everyone else accepts it's either 26 data points divided by 26 or 28 data points divided by 28, if Gutterfax and William Eve need to redefine what an average is to rescue what they think is some level of credibility, let them.
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| Quote Shoe Shine Johnny="Shoe Shine Johnny"Thanks for [ufinally clearing up the events thing once and for all[/u. If we look at the breakdown between the two tournaments it provides a more realistic comparison.
Final
1995 66500 (1 event) = Ave 66,500
2013 74,000 (1 event) = Ave 74,000
SF
1995 46000 (2 events) = Ave 23,000
2013 67500 (1 event) = Ave 67,500
QF
1995 No Events
2013 46,900 (4 events) = Ave 11,725
Pool Games
1995 152500 (12 events) = Ave 12,708
2013 269100 (20 events) = Ave 13,455
England Games/Events (All games)
1995 177,500 (5 events) = Ave 35,500
2013 184,500 (5 events) = Ave 36,900
England Games/Events (Pool Games)
1995 83,000 (3 events) = Ave 27,700
2013 94,500 (3 events) = Ave 31,500
Non-England Games/Events
1995 88,500 (10 events) = Ave 8,850
2013 272,500 (21 events) = Ave 12,976
Difficult to compare 28 game (26 event) tournament against a 15 game tournament with no QFs etc. but this seems to. Both great tournaments and should be celebrated.'"
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| Quote Mr Churchill="Mr Churchill"Excellent post putting this thread to bed.'"
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"There's not a mathematician, a level maths student, GCSE maths student, 11year old of a normal iq who would divide 28 data points by 26 and call it an average. The fact there are only 2 people doing so, and those two people have spent months before the WC telling us all how terrible it would be and how nobody would attend pretty much tells us all we need to know.
Everyone else accepts it's either 26 data points divided by 26 or 28 data points divided by 28, if Gutterfax and William Eve need to redefine what an average is to rescue what they think is some level of credibility, let them.'"
Just to be a pedant they're doing 26 data sets by 28 (otherwise they'd be getting a BIGGER average, and I'm sure they wouldn't want that!). | | | |
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