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Quote ="gutterfax" Don't mistake my frustration for trolling or winding anyone up....the events unfolding in the UK game at present make my blood boil because like the farce in London, it could all so easily have been avoided.
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Your issue is your communication style, and your inability to surrender some positives within your overall message. Any valid points you might make get lost. Ireland v Aus in Munster, stupid I agree. 60k pre-sales for a likely non-England final, an achievement to celebrate. Unless you concede where things are signs of progress, nobody will take you seriously. I'd suggest you know that deep down, and that this approach has also limited your ability to persuade people in the real world in the past.
I agree on the RFL leadership, but don't extrapolate that to cover everyone involved or everything being done. I was interviewed by Nigel Wood and that other joker Gary Tasker for the Marketing Director job at the RFL a few years back and despite being prepared to cut my pay in half when I considered the role in the first place, I just couldn't face going back for another stage so idiotic were they. So believe me I know what I'm talking about, and the trying environment people like Sally Bolton will be operating in. Her and her team have done alright with those and other structural limitations, so give them some credit when there's some good results to celebrate. |
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Quote ="gutterfax" Don't mistake my frustration for trolling or winding anyone up....the events unfolding in the UK game at present make my blood boil because like the farce in London, it could all so easily have been avoided.
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Your issue is your communication style, and your inability to surrender some positives within your overall message. Any valid points you might make get lost. Ireland v Aus in Munster, stupid I agree. 60k pre-sales for a likely non-England final, an achievement to celebrate. Unless you concede where things are signs of progress, nobody will take you seriously. I'd suggest you know that deep down, and that this approach has also limited your ability to persuade people in the real world in the past.
I agree on the RFL leadership, but don't extrapolate that to cover everyone involved or everything being done. I was interviewed by Nigel Wood and that other joker Gary Tasker for the Marketing Director job at the RFL a few years back and despite being prepared to cut my pay in half when I considered the role in the first place, I just couldn't face going back for another stage so idiotic were they. So believe me I know what I'm talking about, and the trying environment people like Sally Bolton will be operating in. Her and her team have done alright with those and other structural limitations, so give them some credit when there's some good results to celebrate. | |
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Wow, surprised this thread is still alive and kicking.
For those spouting Bollocks, consider yourselves warned. To be fair to us mods, if people have a problem, click the report button, it makes the issue stand out like a sore thumb..
We can't read everything and I only caught sight of this from a brief scan of the last page.
I would have thought with the final announcement on the sales, that would have been the end of this thread.
Just spell everything correctly and the swear filter will either change it for you or not, putting in alternate letters and #'s is down to being a little cheeky or a very bad speller.
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Bollocks
...just checking the translation for male genitalia.
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Quote ="JB Down Under"You spent weeks whinging the rfl weren't telling you how many tickets had been sold and they must be covering up poor sales, '"
Correct.....I was concerned that given their track record, the RFL being frugal with press releases. The plethora of discount codes from July onwards does point to a slight concern on their part, as does the 170,000 more fans than 2008 but only a 500k increase in profit.
Quote ="JB Down Under"you under predicted due to your negativity of ARL in general and were shown to be wrong, thanks for the lol ">moments.'"
I was wrong....in fact, I was 27% wrong and admitted as much straight away. I did so with good faith and congratulated Ms Bolton et al on a splendid job. My negativity is generally not directed at ARL, which compared to the RFL is a brilliantly run organisation, but that really isn't much of a compliment. A quick glance at the RL headlines since RLWC 2013 point to my negativity being pretty well founded....
Quote ="JB Down Under"Re Pirates end of 2014 review as you would know if you follow ">NRL.'"
But you were blowing the trumpets for years telling anyone who dared log in that the WA Reds/Pirates were a shoo-in for expansion once the gazillion dollar deal was done.....what actually happened is the current 16 NRL clubs and the ARL decided to keep feeding at the same trough and not to share with anyone. Given the TV ratings for Perth and the, at best, average attendances for OTR games there, I suspect Brisbane II and Wellington II may be ahead of the deserted wastelands of WA when it comes to the next expansion.
On the topic of the longevity of this thread, Ticket sales have been confirmed at 460k for 26 events or 28 games, depending which altar you genuflect too, and therefore the average attendance went up from 2008 and therefore the RLWC can be considered a roaring success. Well done to all concerned from Ms Bolton through to the Fans who attended.
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Quote ="JB Down Under"You spent weeks whinging the rfl weren't telling you how many tickets had been sold and they must be covering up poor sales, '"
Correct.....I was concerned that given their track record, the RFL being frugal with press releases. The plethora of discount codes from July onwards does point to a slight concern on their part, as does the 170,000 more fans than 2008 but only a 500k increase in profit.
Quote ="JB Down Under"you under predicted due to your negativity of ARL in general and were shown to be wrong, thanks for the lol ">moments.'"
I was wrong....in fact, I was 27% wrong and admitted as much straight away. I did so with good faith and congratulated Ms Bolton et al on a splendid job. My negativity is generally not directed at ARL, which compared to the RFL is a brilliantly run organisation, but that really isn't much of a compliment. A quick glance at the RL headlines since RLWC 2013 point to my negativity being pretty well founded....
Quote ="JB Down Under"Re Pirates end of 2014 review as you would know if you follow ">NRL.'"
But you were blowing the trumpets for years telling anyone who dared log in that the WA Reds/Pirates were a shoo-in for expansion once the gazillion dollar deal was done.....what actually happened is the current 16 NRL clubs and the ARL decided to keep feeding at the same trough and not to share with anyone. Given the TV ratings for Perth and the, at best, average attendances for OTR games there, I suspect Brisbane II and Wellington II may be ahead of the deserted wastelands of WA when it comes to the next expansion.
On the topic of the longevity of this thread, Ticket sales have been confirmed at 460k for 26 events or 28 games, depending which altar you genuflect too, and therefore the average attendance went up from 2008 and therefore the RLWC can be considered a roaring success. Well done to all concerned from Ms Bolton through to the Fans who attended.
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You continue to be good value for lol moments, thank you.
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Quote ="JB Down Under"You continue to be good value for lol moments, thank ">you.'"
I am touring WA next year and am worth every penny!
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Quote ="JB Down Under"You continue to be good value for lol moments, thank ">you.'"
I am touring WA next year and am worth every penny!
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