The best way for the game to use the little resources that it has to create even more is to focus on what broadcasters and sponsors are willing to pay for, and that is SL. It needs as many teams being able to challenge at the top of the table as it possible can, and this year we have started to see that happen as any one of 4 or 5 teams can go on to win the Grand Final. Going back to P&R is going to stop that from happening, as too many clubs are going to suddenly change focus and decide that a successful season is merely avoiding relegation.



Licensing is the best way to expand the league outside of the northern heartlands. What the RFL should ultimately be doing is helping the clubs in CC1 such as South Wales, Oxford, Hemel and Gloucestershire to try and get them into a position to be able to get into SL, as these clubs are the ones who should be the future and seen as integral to the long term success of SL.

Quote ="SmokeyTA"No, last time I posted the first two links, one for warrington, one for wigan, you then invented in your head that clubs only made profits in these years and no others, and then further extrapolated your nonsense to decide clubs only ever make profit when they win the challenge ">cup.'" I didnt decide anything, both claims of profit ( just the 2 ) just happened to coincide with successful Challenge Cup campaigns

Quote ="SmokeyTA"No, last time I posted the first two links, one for warrington, one for wigan, you then invented in your head that clubs only made profits in these years and no others, and then further extrapolated your nonsense to decide clubs only ever make profit when they win the challenge ">cup.'" I didnt decide anything, both claims of profit ( just the 2 ) just happened to coincide with successful Challenge Cup campaigns

Which might have an impact, yet I'd say the greater effect has been professionalism finally starting to bite. I was at a coaching workshop run by Barrie McDermott a few weeks ago and he said when he first started playing they (the players) were part-timers, by the time he'd finished playing they were full time professionals but now they're athletes.

I think the Championships could just about keep pace with full time professionals, but not with athletes. That's not necessarily a criticism of the Championship clubs, it's just how it is.



For instance at Leeds the backroom staff has expanded dramatically in both size and expertise. It's more than doubled in size in 5 years and expertise-wise is now at the point where the u18's strength & conditioning coach holds both an MSc in Sport & Exercise Science and a PhD in Fluid and Electrolyte Balance in Rugby Players. This is a far cry from the days of Mal Reilly as Assistant coach, only 10 years ago, simply telling players to run harder.



The game has moved beyond the current reach of many clubs, we need to find a way of helping them get back within reach again.

Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Not all clubs ">pretended.'" If the recession and financial crisis had not hit, I suspect at least one of those would be complete and the other way down the planning stage if not both finished.

Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Not all clubs ">pretended.'" If the recession and financial crisis had not hit, I suspect at least one of those would be complete and the other way down the planning stage if not both finished.

Quote ="Him"Which might have an impact, yet I'd say the greater effect has been professionalism finally starting to bite. I was at a coaching workshop run by Barrie McDermott a few weeks ago and he said when he first started playing they (the players) were part-timers, by the time he'd finished playing they were full time professionals but now they're athletes. I think the Championships could just about keep pace with full time professionals, but not with athletes. That's not necessarily a criticism of the Championship clubs, it's just how it is. For instance at Leeds the backroom staff has expanded dramatically in both size and expertise. It's more than doubled in size in 5 years and expertise-wise is now at the point where the u18's strength & conditioning coach holds both an MSc in Sport & Exercise Science and a PhD in Fluid and Electrolyte Balance in Rugby Players. This is a far cry from the days of Mal Reilly as Assistant coach, only 10 years ago, simply telling players to run harder. The game has moved beyond the current reach of many clubs, we need to find a way of helping them get back within reach ">again.'" To call all super league players athletes is a mistake, some people call football players athletes. Now don't get me wrong the modern player is super fit strong and the best prepared they have ever been. Only a handful would be classed as athletes, probably a few more at the top clubs. Oh and there is something to be said for telling players to run harder, see Sam thaiday, Barrie mac, willie mason. Mark o medley in his pomp.

Quote ="Him"Which might have an impact, yet I'd say the greater effect has been professionalism finally starting to bite. I was at a coaching workshop run by Barrie McDermott a few weeks ago and he said when he first started playing they (the players) were part-timers, by the time he'd finished playing they were full time professionals but now they're athletes. I think the Championships could just about keep pace with full time professionals, but not with athletes. That's not necessarily a criticism of the Championship clubs, it's just how it is. For instance at Leeds the backroom staff has expanded dramatically in both size and expertise. It's more than doubled in size in 5 years and expertise-wise is now at the point where the u18's strength & conditioning coach holds both an MSc in Sport & Exercise Science and a PhD in Fluid and Electrolyte Balance in Rugby Players. This is a far cry from the days of Mal Reilly as Assistant coach, only 10 years ago, simply telling players to run harder. The game has moved beyond the current reach of many clubs, we need to find a way of helping them get back within reach ">again.'" To call all super league players athletes is a mistake, some people call football players athletes. Now don't get me wrong the modern player is super fit strong and the best prepared they have ever been. Only a handful would be classed as athletes, probably a few more at the top clubs. Oh and there is something to be said for telling players to run harder, see Sam thaiday, Barrie mac, willie mason. Mark o medley in his pomp.

Quote ="rollin thunder"To call all super league players athletes is a mistake, some people call football players athletes. Now don't get me wrong the modern player is super fit strong and the best prepared they have ever been. Only a handful would be classed as athletes, probably a few more at the top clubs. Oh and there is something to be said for telling players to run harder, see Sam thaiday, Barrie mac, willie mason. Mark o medley in his ">pomp.'" I'm not sure why they wouldn't be classed as athletes, in the same way as footballers, tennis players etc are. They have their bodies at peak condition for their particular sport. But the term was more to describe the differences in the preparation of a SL player now compared to 10 years ago compared to 10 years before that. As was the comment about telling players to run harder. There have been massive changes in this area and its an area that requires full time players, full time coaches and expertise. All those have high costs attached to them, costs the Championship clubs can't afford currently.

Quote ="rollin thunder"To call all super league players athletes is a mistake, some people call football players athletes. Now don't get me wrong the modern player is super fit strong and the best prepared they have ever been. Only a handful would be classed as athletes, probably a few more at the top clubs. Oh and there is something to be said for telling players to run harder, see Sam thaiday, Barrie mac, willie mason. Mark o medley in his ">pomp.'" I'm not sure why they wouldn't be classed as athletes, in the same way as footballers, tennis players etc are. They have their bodies at peak condition for their particular sport. But the term was more to describe the differences in the preparation of a SL player now compared to 10 years ago compared to 10 years before that. As was the comment about telling players to run harder. There have been massive changes in this area and its an area that requires full time players, full time coaches and expertise. All those have high costs attached to them, costs the Championship clubs can't afford currently.