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Hasler is right. Graham has achieved very little other than collecting a heap of losers medals both at club and international level.
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Quote ="Mugwump"Typical Schofield quote. The guy finds it impossible to credit anyone outside of his own era with equal abilities. I mean, it's difficult to argue about the greatness of guys like Ward and Hanley. But aside from the odd decent game (when he was younger) I don't recall Lee Crooks pulling up too many Australian ">trees.'"
I'd have Crooks ahead of Ward, and it wasn't the 'odd decent game' as a youngster
 d040.gif" alt="d040.gif" title="CRAZY" /> Crooks was a superb ball handling forward and was nominated in Western Suburbs team of the 80s.
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Quote ="Mugwump"Typical Schofield quote. The guy finds it impossible to credit anyone outside of his own era with equal abilities. I mean, it's difficult to argue about the greatness of guys like Ward and Hanley. But aside from the odd decent game (when he was younger) I don't recall Lee Crooks pulling up too many Australian ">trees.'"
I'd have Crooks ahead of Ward, and it wasn't the 'odd decent game' as a youngster
d040.gif" alt="d040.gif" title="CRAZY" /> Crooks was a superb ball handling forward and was nominated in Western Suburbs team of the 80s.
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Quote ="The Poltroon"Hasler is right. Graham has achieved very little other than collecting a heap of losers medals both at club and international ">level.'"
With Saints :
Minor Premiers 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
Chalenge Cup winners 2006, 2007, 2008
SL Grand Final winners 2006
World Club Champions 2007
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Young Player of the Year 2006
Man of Steel 2008
Des Hasler knows jack s**t.
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Quote ="The Poltroon"Hasler is right. Graham has achieved very little other than collecting a heap of losers medals both at club and international ">level.'"
With Saints :
Minor Premiers 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
Chalenge Cup winners 2006, 2007, 2008
SL Grand Final winners 2006
World Club Champions 2007
Individual:
Young Player of the Year 2006
Man of Steel 2008
Des Hasler knows jack s**t.
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| Quote ="nickcat0"With Saints :
Minor Premiers 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
Chalenge Cup winners 2006, 2007, 2008
SL Grand Final winners 2006
World Club Champions 2007
Individual:
Young Player of the Year 2006
Man of Steel 2008
Des Hasler knows jack s**t.'"
Maybe Hasler was trying to take the pressure of him?
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Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"I'd have Crooks ahead of Ward, and it wasn't the 'odd decent game' as a youngster
d040.gif" alt="d040.gif" title="CRAZY" /> Crooks was a superb ball handling forward and was nominated in Western Suburbs team of the 80s.'"
Whereas Ward did the business in the biggest game on the planet against the best. Crooks had plenty of ability - but he often failed to live up to it. I can only recall watching both and who I feared the most. Crooks was problematic but I rarely worried excessively when he carried the ball. Ward was a guy you simply had to put three men on or he would tear your defence to shreds.
And yes, Crooks' best days were earlier in his career (before, say, 25-26). Ward was a handful right up to 33 (despite, admittedly, being a bit of a later starter). |
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Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"I'd have Crooks ahead of Ward, and it wasn't the 'odd decent game' as a youngster
d040.gif" alt="d040.gif" title="CRAZY" /> Crooks was a superb ball handling forward and was nominated in Western Suburbs team of the 80s.'"
Whereas Ward did the business in the biggest game on the planet against the best. Crooks had plenty of ability - but he often failed to live up to it. I can only recall watching both and who I feared the most. Crooks was problematic but I rarely worried excessively when he carried the ball. Ward was a guy you simply had to put three men on or he would tear your defence to shreds.
And yes, Crooks' best days were earlier in his career (before, say, 25-26). Ward was a handful right up to 33 (despite, admittedly, being a bit of a later starter). | |
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d040.gif" alt="d040.gif" title="CRAZY" /> Crooks was a superb ball handling forward and was nominated in Western Suburbs team of the 80s.
