So you know Rovers fans who thought it was disgraceful about the amount of Aussies a SL team had when we were not even in SL.

How many fans do you know that thought it was a disgrace FC were allowed to put Gateshead to the sword to save their own ?

Or how many fans thought it was a disgrace you got to a CC Cup final with unregistered players which believe it or not the RFL gave you dissposition in the next round by just letting you play it.

The problem I have is when it's suits the fans of the teams it goes for it's ok but when It does not then were poop Aussie wannabees.

We are playing by rules your board are not smart enough to understand just as catalan did with Dobbo and wire with Johns.

Suppose it's like kids choosing sweets, even though they both have a choice one always what the others got.

PS you did also break the cap lol

KR fans keep stating that they have only been in SL so many seasons and so it takes time to build up their youth system but Cas pre-relegation never really invested significantly in their youth system. We got promoted a year after Hull KR and have since brought through several players of SL quality. That was only after investing a lot of money and resources into our youth system. So how is it a club like Cas, with limited money and cannot afford to spend full SC, are able to overtake Hull KR in aspects such as this?

Quote ="chukabutt"So you know Rovers fans who thought it was disgraceful about the amount of Aussies a SL team had when we were not even in ">SL.'" But it seems many don't seem to mind now. Hence this topic started by you. Quote ="chukabutt"How many fans do you know that thought it was a disgrace FC were allowed to put Gateshead to the sword to save their own booty?'" If it wasn't for your club, this wouldn't have happened as we'd have been in NFP. Quote ="chukabutt"Or how many fans thought it was a disgrace you got to a CC Cup final with unregistered players which believe it or not the RFL gave you dissposition in the next round by just letting you play ">it.'" He wasn't unregistered, he was cup-tied. We didn't field him to cheat. We didn't need to. We played two lower league teams who (no disrespect) would not have beaten us regardless of whether Thackray played or not. We didn't bend rules to play him to get an advantage. We were just stupid. And we were fined (rightfully). Quote ="chukabutt"The problem I have is when it's suits the fans of the teams it goes for it's ok but when It does not then were poop Aussie ">wannabees.'" This is where you are failing to understand. It's not OK if Hull do it. It's not OK when a team someone else supports does it. Nobody thinks it's OK. Quote ="chukabutt"We are playing by rules your board are not smart enough to understand just as catalan did with Dobbo and wire with ">Johns.'" Both totally different and incomparable situations. You're allowed to deregister players in a season and replace them with others. You're not allowed to re-register them again in that same season. It's in the rules. Rovers found the loop hole that allowed for exemptions. Rovers then started applying for different passports for a number of their players to allow Mason over. And when that didn't work quick enough, Rovers then looked for another loop hole by de-registering Dobson and are now seeking exemption to get him back. They're seeking this. They're intentionally trying to get as many Aussies in as possible. Is this in the spirit of the game? Is this the point of the quota? To allow teams to work around it in as many ways as possible to get more than the quota in? No. Quote ="chukabutt" Suppose it's like kids choosing sweets, even though they both have a choice one always what the others ">got.'" Yes, it appears everyone in SL wants to be like Rovers and find as many loopholes to get around the quota as possible. Oh wait, it's only Rovers that have been doing it over the years... Quote ="chukabutt"PS you did also break the cap lol'" Yes, because our chief executive was an idiot and didn't realise that playing Andy Last for one game would mean his entire salary as a coach at the club would count on the cap. Again, we weren't intentionally trying to get around the rules like Rovers. We weren't doing it against the spirit of the game. We just didn't read the small print.

Quote ="chukabutt"So you know Rovers fans who thought it was disgraceful about the amount of Aussies a SL team had when we were not even in ">SL.'" But it seems many don't seem to mind now. Hence this topic started by you. Quote ="chukabutt"How many fans do you know that thought it was a disgrace FC were allowed to put Gateshead to the sword to save their own booty?'" If it wasn't for your club, this wouldn't have happened as we'd have been in NFP. Quote ="chukabutt"Or how many fans thought it was a disgrace you got to a CC Cup final with unregistered players which believe it or not the RFL gave you dissposition in the next round by just letting you play ">it.'" He wasn't unregistered, he was cup-tied. We didn't field him to cheat. We didn't need to. We played two lower league teams who (no disrespect) would not have beaten us regardless of whether Thackray played or not. We didn't bend rules to play him to get an advantage. We were just stupid. And we were fined (rightfully). Quote ="chukabutt"The problem I have is when it's suits the fans of the teams it goes for it's ok but when It does not then were poop Aussie ">wannabees.'" This is where you are failing to understand. It's not OK if Hull do it. It's not OK when a team someone else supports does it. Nobody thinks it's OK. Quote ="chukabutt"We are playing by rules your board are not smart enough to understand just as catalan did with Dobbo and wire with ">Johns.'" Both totally different and incomparable situations. You're allowed to deregister players in a season and replace them with others. You're not allowed to re-register them again in that same season. It's in the rules. Rovers found the loop hole that allowed for exemptions. Rovers then started applying for different passports for a number of their players to allow Mason over. And when that didn't work quick enough, Rovers then looked for another loop hole by de-registering Dobson and are now seeking exemption to get him back. They're seeking this. They're intentionally trying to get as many Aussies in as possible. Is this in the spirit of the game? Is this the point of the quota? To allow teams to work around it in as many ways as possible to get more than the quota in? No. Quote ="chukabutt" Suppose it's like kids choosing sweets, even though they both have a choice one always what the others ">got.'" Yes, it appears everyone in SL wants to be like Rovers and find as many loopholes to get around the quota as possible. Oh wait, it's only Rovers that have been doing it over the years... Quote ="chukabutt"PS you did also break the cap lol'" Yes, because our chief executive was an idiot and didn't realise that playing Andy Last for one game would mean his entire salary as a coach at the club would count on the cap. Again, we weren't intentionally trying to get around the rules like Rovers. We weren't doing it against the spirit of the game. We just didn't read the small print.

Quote ="chukabutt"Wellsy you are wrong mate but as a FC Fan that's what you chose topick up ">on.'" I'm not wrong. You said it yourself: "Most of all what I don't get is why is it ok for Hull FC to get rid of two young English lads and sign to Aussies." Quote ="chukabutt"Being totally honest I could not care less what FC do as I don't support them so they don't concern me. '" Bull. Again... "Most of all what I don't get is why is it ok for Hull FC to get rid of two young English lads and sign to Aussies." "How many fans do you know that thought it was a disgrace FC were allowed to put Gateshead to the sword to save their own booty?" "Or how many fans thought it was a disgrace you got to a CC Cup final with unregistered players which believe it or not the RFL gave you dissposition in the next round by just letting you play it." "PS you did also break the cap lol" "you are wrong mate but as a FC Fan that's what you chose topick up on" You mentioned FC in your opening post, in a post about Hull KR, and said it was something that bothered you "most". But you couldn't care less... Quote ="chukabutt"What I find interesting is that none of the teams that see us as a threat see this as an issue yet teams who do are up in arms. '" That sentence made no sense. The none of the teams that see you as a threat see this as an issue. The teams that do are up in arms? How can they be both? Quote ="chukabutt"And to be honest Hall was always good enough but was just a scape goat at FC by both coach and fans alike!!'" Having watched Hull week-in week-out, I can tell you that Hall was not good enough at Hull. He had years to fulfil his potential and failed on many occasions, often in spectacular fashion. He just never learned from his mistakes.

Quote ="chukabutt"Wellsy you are wrong mate but as a FC Fan that's what you chose topick up ">on.'" I'm not wrong. You said it yourself: "Most of all what I don't get is why is it ok for Hull FC to get rid of two young English lads and sign to Aussies." Quote ="chukabutt"Being totally honest I could not care less what FC do as I don't support them so they don't concern me. '" Bull. Again... "Most of all what I don't get is why is it ok for Hull FC to get rid of two young English lads and sign to Aussies." "How many fans do you know that thought it was a disgrace FC were allowed to put Gateshead to the sword to save their own booty?" "Or how many fans thought it was a disgrace you got to a CC Cup final with unregistered players which believe it or not the RFL gave you dissposition in the next round by just letting you play it." "PS you did also break the cap lol" "you are wrong mate but as a FC Fan that's what you chose topick up on" You mentioned FC in your opening post, in a post about Hull KR, and said it was something that bothered you "most". But you couldn't care less... Quote ="chukabutt"What I find interesting is that none of the teams that see us as a threat see this as an issue yet teams who do are up in arms. '" That sentence made no sense. The none of the teams that see you as a threat see this as an issue. The teams that do are up in arms? How can they be both? Quote ="chukabutt"And to be honest Hall was always good enough but was just a scape goat at FC by both coach and fans alike!!'" Having watched Hull week-in week-out, I can tell you that Hall was not good enough at Hull. He had years to fulfil his potential and failed on many occasions, often in spectacular fashion. He just never learned from his mistakes.

Oh goodie...another HKA/MASON thread icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="icon_rolleyes.gif" title="Rolling Eyes" /> tb....has the merge button on your PC broken?

Oh goodie...another HKA/MASON thread icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="icon_rolleyes.gif" title="Rolling Eyes" /> tb....has the merge button on your PC broken?

Forget your relegation(s) - it's irrelevant to Hull KR



In short - we just didn't have enough money or time for youth – [iseriously[/i

We more or less didn't have a youth setup prior to SL (certainly not of quality anyway)



Finances - Nearly going out of business - we just didn't have the cash available to invest for a long period



Competition - With Hull been what/where they were, we really couldn't compete. Whatever potential kids were about - they'd ultimately end up @ FC if they were of quality.



Time - When we got back on track and had the board/owner we have now (Hudgell and former CEO Lakin), we had one goal and one shot - promotion to Super League. All resources went on team and ground improvements in order to get promotion to SL. If we didn't get promoted 06 - I certainly don't think we'd be in SL now. We needed that 1st season prior to the licenses in order to a) prove that two Hull teams wasn't a bad thing/workable b) We could compete c) time to improve the stadium further. Without that period of 'grace' I doubt we'd have received as much support for a license (promoted or not the following season)



With the uncertainty of relegation from SL (first season) and ultimately then the licenses onwards, I’d hazard a guess that youth development probably didn't really get going until after this period. Plus no doubt, a lot of the best young'uns out there will still be coming through from the time of FC's dominance. In theory we should be seeing 'our' products come through from this/next season onwards. If not, we have no excuse - other than we need to try harder.



Up to this point we’ve picked up other clubs’ castoffs (if you like) and being heavily reliant on overseas players. But you must understand from getting promotion we really have been fighting to catch up on just about all fronts and in comparison to other ‘seasoned’ SL sides – some of who have had the luxury of having Sky monies and SL spin offs for the years we’ve been surviving on gates ranging from 1900-2500 > We haven’t done too bad.



Please bear with us.