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Quote ="headhunter"Celtic Crusaders were founded and financed by Leighton Samuel, not the RFL. It wasn't an RFL intiative, Bridgend was not a targeted area and they weren't fast tracked, it was a new club that started in NL2 as everyone is suggesting should happen. The fact that they rose up the leagues so quickly was due to the fact that they had a backer and so had far more financial power than the majority of lower league clubs, it was nothing to do with the RFL. Fair enough, Samuel turned out to be a bit of a crook and Crusaders ended up getting into a lot of debt and subsequently administration, which they have just left, but does that mean they were unsustainable? Only a couple of clubs would not encounter similar problems if their backers pulled out or weren't committed. If the criteria is that clubs need to be running at a profit and fielding an entirely home-grown side, then there would only be one or two clubs left in Super ">League.'"
think you will find they were fast tracked, by being allowed to run above the cap in nl2, have more overseas players than what the other teams were allowed and the same again when they came up to nl1 it was not an even contest if they had run to the same rules as the rest in nl2 they would still be there in bridgend playing to gates of 500
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Quote ="headhunter"Celtic Crusaders were founded and financed by Leighton Samuel, not the RFL. It wasn't an RFL intiative, Bridgend was not a targeted area and they weren't fast tracked, it was a new club that started in NL2 as everyone is suggesting should happen. The fact that they rose up the leagues so quickly was due to the fact that they had a backer and so had far more financial power than the majority of lower league clubs, it was nothing to do with the RFL. Fair enough, Samuel turned out to be a bit of a crook and Crusaders ended up getting into a lot of debt and subsequently administration, which they have just left, but does that mean they were unsustainable? Only a couple of clubs would not encounter similar problems if their backers pulled out or weren't committed. If the criteria is that clubs need to be running at a profit and fielding an entirely home-grown side, then there would only be one or two clubs left in Super ">League.'"
think you will find they were fast tracked, by being allowed to run above the cap in nl2, have more overseas players than what the other teams were allowed and the same again when they came up to nl1 it was not an even contest if they had run to the same rules as the rest in nl2 they would still be there in bridgend playing to gates of 500
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| Quote ="Sarf Essex Taff"Can you point me to where I put forward that argument (except for in your own imagination)? I simply corrected your inaccurate statement about what happened in 1994. You seem very sensitive to being corrected. If your argument is so strong why make stuff up?'"
I said that Broqnuins were not as strong a team as the Fulham side had been and said that IIRC they finished 2nd bottom. IIRC is generally used when you are not entirely sure about something - hence it is rather petty to go on ad naseum about how I had repeated "facts" about Bronquins that were inaccurate.
And I really can't imagine why you would bring up where Broqnuins finished the year previous other than to justify their inclusion. I had made no statement about the previous year so there was no "facts" that needed correcting. | | | |
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| Quote ="Toulouse for super L"What a terrible idea
and how is South Wales in the east?'"
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Quote ="Starbug"I'd disagree on that one , in NZ , Auckland has always been the primary RL area , still not as strong as union , but a heartland without doubt'"
Agree with you bug.
Spent a week at a festival in Gisborne and there were a very large number of NRL jerseys on show...very few S14 ones. Most of the NRL wearers I spoke to were from the North of the north Island.
The social demographic of the Auckland area make it a RL heartland...the Waikato and Auckland regions which are the direct catchment area for the Warriors have 27% Maori/Pacifica populations...League is the sport of choice for these groups. Compare this with Wellington (18%) and Christchurch/Canterbury (10%) and you can see why the Warriors are based where they are.
Basketball is also a sport of choice for these social demographic groups....that's why the Breakers are based in Auckland while the European sport of soccer is based in the European dominated capital city.
The NRL should be looking at a second NZ team...maybe based in Wellington but one that plays games "on the road" in Canterbury and Bay of plenty (30%)...with some form of transport initiative in BoP......it is a bugger to get around up there as the NZ v PNG test showed.
As for the UK and expansion? London has worked on some levels (number of kids playing the game, producing more home grown players than many heatland teams etc..) but continues to puzzle many with regard to the lack of interest from the paying public......Wales ....? It is too early to judge Wales yet, but I suspect that crowds will be an issue there as well. The Midlands might be the next place to look at. Scotland and Ireland are worth looking at in maybe 10 years time........as with any form of expansion...it is better to get what you already have in good shape before trying to expand......there's no point in building an extension on your house if your house is in danger of falling down is there  eusa_naughty.gif" alt="eusa_naughty.gif" title="NAUGHTY" /> |
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Quote ="Starbug"I'd disagree on that one , in NZ , Auckland has always been the primary RL area , still not as strong as union , but a heartland without doubt'"
Agree with you bug.
Spent a week at a festival in Gisborne and there were a very large number of NRL jerseys on show...very few S14 ones. Most of the NRL wearers I spoke to were from the North of the north Island.
The social demographic of the Auckland area make it a RL heartland...the Waikato and Auckland regions which are the direct catchment area for the Warriors have 27% Maori/Pacifica populations...League is the sport of choice for these groups. Compare this with Wellington (18%) and Christchurch/Canterbury (10%) and you can see why the Warriors are based where they are.
Basketball is also a sport of choice for these social demographic groups....that's why the Breakers are based in Auckland while the European sport of soccer is based in the European dominated capital city.
The NRL should be looking at a second NZ team...maybe based in Wellington but one that plays games "on the road" in Canterbury and Bay of plenty (30%)...with some form of transport initiative in BoP......it is a bugger to get around up there as the NZ v PNG test showed.
As for the UK and expansion? London has worked on some levels (number of kids playing the game, producing more home grown players than many heatland teams etc..) but continues to puzzle many with regard to the lack of interest from the paying public......Wales ....? It is too early to judge Wales yet, but I suspect that crowds will be an issue there as well. The Midlands might be the next place to look at. Scotland and Ireland are worth looking at in maybe 10 years time........as with any form of expansion...it is better to get what you already have in good shape before trying to expand......there's no point in building an extension on your house if your house is in danger of falling down is there eusa_naughty.gif" alt="eusa_naughty.gif" title="NAUGHTY" /> | |
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Quote ="Hedgehog King"I said that Broqnuins were not as strong a team as the Fulham side had been and said that IIRC they finished 2nd bottom. IIRC is generally used when you are not entirely sure about something - hence it is rather petty to go on ad naseum about how I had repeated "facts" about Bronquins that were inaccurate.
And I really can't imagine why you would bring up where Broqnuins finished the year previous other than to justify their inclusion. I had made no statement about the previous year so there was no "facts" that needed ">correcting.'"
The only person posting ad nauseum is you with your ever more desperate attempts to explain away the tripe you posted by reading into a simple correction my views and pretending a final held in May 1995 happened in 1994.
Still we get the point. You don't like expansion clubs and wish they had never entered your cosy perfect world.
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Quote ="Hedgehog King"I said that Broqnuins were not as strong a team as the Fulham side had been and said that IIRC they finished 2nd bottom. IIRC is generally used when you are not entirely sure about something - hence it is rather petty to go on ad naseum about how I had repeated "facts" about Bronquins that were inaccurate.
And I really can't imagine why you would bring up where Broqnuins finished the year previous other than to justify their inclusion. I had made no statement about the previous year so there was no "facts" that needed ">correcting.'"
The only person posting ad nauseum is you with your ever more desperate attempts to explain away the tripe you posted by reading into a simple correction my views and pretending a final held in May 1995 happened in 1994.
Still we get the point. You don't like expansion clubs and wish they had never entered your cosy perfect world.
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| Quote ="sanjunien"maybe the general public around Carlisle don't want an RL team in their area and are quite happy for the minority interest to travel to Barrow,Whitehaven etc etc ?'"
As I understand it at the moment the only RL Club in Carlisle at the moment is a summer team which is dependant on the West Cumberland Amateur League for players. When I was playing in West Cumbria, Carlisle had a professional team as well as a number of amateur clubs & the situation tending to be one that players & supporters from West Cumbria wanted to be involved with RL in Carlisle. Unfortunately for professional RL both Whitehaven & Workington are small towns, Carlisle being the only place that could realistically support a super league team due to its population & location. I find it strange that a place like Carlise with its stategic links to Scotland & Northern Ireland can end up in such a state. I am sure that many people in Carlisle are working away at developing the game, but are they getting any support from the RFL.
My own view of expansion as stated by someone else on here is that it should start are Amateur level & build from there, starting at professional level is too costly & carries to much risk of failure. I would like to see the RFL or Barla support the re-establishment of all the old failed professional clubs in an Amateur form, similar to what happening with RL in Liverpool with the Liverpool Lions etc. | | | |
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