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| Quote ="gutterfax"Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"
Why have you included Harlequins in there?
If Quins were an animal they would be an old sick lame and blind horse who really want gently leading out into a field somewhere the other side of the M25 to be put down'"
....like the sharkies bazza'"
Top 8 in 2011 Gutters!
You just see if your old mate Barry McKenzie isn't right!!
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| Quote ="sanjunien":173zkxstQuote ="Starbug":173zkxstQuote ="sanjunien":173zkxstQuote ="Starbug":173zkxstQuote ="sanjunien":173zkxstQuote ="Starbug":173zkxst
' It cant expand as it is obviously ' maybe you could explain this statement as I dont understand it
Yes you do , but it isn't me that has removed that incentive , that would be the RFL
My team will never have the chance to progress any higher because of its location , now if you have some magical plan that enables this to happen without it impacting on the expansion clubs in SL , please enlighten us
No I dont , because I dont want my club to be involved in a franchised SL , I fundamentaly disagree with the system wether my club is involved or not
You obviously dont underatand me or my opinions on the sport at all levels , maybe if you read my posts rather than like so many others having pre concieved ideas on them you would understand me and them'" :173zkxst'" :173zkxst'" :173zkxst'" :173zkxst'" :173zkxst
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=#FF0000:173zkxstthe C/C1 can't expand because the clubs can't go anywhere :173zkxst- they are stuck well and truly in C/C1 unless they can somehow do a Widnes which the vast majority of clubs will never be able to do - the present franchise system prevents progress for the smaller clubs - hence the earlier term 'parochial',meaning localised and confined to an area - sounds as though the franchising will mean 99% of all non SL clubs standing still at best.
ok,blame the RFL if you wish,it's difficult to find any other scapegoat isn't it ?
your team,like any other can progress by being good enough in any given season via the P & R system - it needs a backer,like most football teams to invest - if your team is lucky enough to find a SOC type character then all the better for you - most clubs dream of this eventuality - sugar daddies don't come along every day do they ? Delia Smith saved Norwich City,Alan Sugar saved Spurs etc etc
we both disagree with franchising then ?
no,I obviously don't understand your opinions on our sport but I do know what you're getting at tho' I hope I don't have preconceived ideas - apologies if that's your understanding
forgive me for being an out of touch ignorant froggie
'" ? , that isn't expansion ?
It is the sport we are discussing , all of it , not just SL , or the amatuer game
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| Quote ="Starbug"Quote ="sanjunien"Quote ="Starbug"Quote ="sanjunien"Quote ="Starbug"Quote ="sanjunien"Quote ="Starbug"
' It cant expand as it is obviously ' maybe you could explain this statement as I dont understand it
Yes you do , but it isn't me that has removed that incentive , that would be the RFL
My team will never have the chance to progress any higher because of its location , now if you have some magical plan that enables this to happen without it impacting on the expansion clubs in SL , please enlighten us
No I dont , because I dont want my club to be involved in a franchised SL , I fundamentaly disagree with the system wether my club is involved or not
You obviously dont underatand me or my opinions on the sport at all levels , maybe if you read my posts rather than like so many others having pre concieved ideas on them you would understand me and them'" '" '" '" '"
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=#FF0000the C/C1 can't expand because the clubs can't go anywhere - they are stuck well and truly in C/C1 unless they can somehow do a Widnes which the vast majority of clubs will never be able to do - the present franchise system prevents progress for the smaller clubs - hence the earlier term 'parochial',meaning localised and confined to an area - sounds as though the franchising will mean 99% of all non SL clubs standing still at best.
ok,blame the RFL if you wish,it's difficult to find any other scapegoat isn't it ?
your team,like any other can progress by being good enough in any given season via the P & R system - it needs a backer,like most football teams to invest - if your team is lucky enough to find a SOC type character then all the better for you - most clubs dream of this eventuality - sugar daddies don't come along every day do they ? Delia Smith saved Norwich City,Alan Sugar saved Spurs etc etc
we both disagree with franchising then ?
no,I obviously don't understand your opinions on our sport but I do know what you're getting at tho' I hope I don't have preconceived ideas - apologies if that's your understanding
forgive me for being an out of touch ignorant froggie
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So if we get more Championship clubs [ both competitions ? , that isn't expansion ?
of course,but the whole problem is to maintain these clubs and not see them in the potential Dons,Blackpool etc etc situation year in year out.As has been said before by many contributors there are many ways to try to survive ie cut their cloth accordingly,more intelligent use of precious income,dual registration,feeder clubbing,finding a SOC,ditching expensive luxuries like TO etc etc etc
It is the sport we are discussing , all of it , not just SL , or the amatuer game'"
any sport has to be nurtured from the grass roots - SL has seemed to have cut out the 'middle man' ie junior,amateur & league systems - look at Hull K Aussie ...
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| Quote any sport has to be nurtured from the grass roots - SL has seemed to have cut out the 'middle man' ie junior,amateur & league systems - =#FF0000look at Hull K Aussie ... '"
Can you explain as you havent made a point with that post ?
If it is that HKR havent started to bring through juniors , then quite simply you are not giving them time , 2011 will be their 5 th season in SL , they didn't run any junior development until 2007 , it takes at least 5/6 years to see any juniors work there way through a scholarship/academy system
I would suggest rather than accept what certain posters put on here as ' gospel ' you take time to look at the facts
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| crucrucrusaders ,
It may be a good idea if there could be some transparency on when the club in Wrexham are actually coming out of administration.
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| Quote ="vikingsmurf"interesting response, although thats a rather poor attempt at putting a xenophobic spin on my words. I have not mentioned hating france. some of my best friends are french. I simply find calling the North of England a 'wasteland' rather hypocritical unless you hail from a futuristic utopia like the federation of the star trek universe. as you yourself have touched upon france has its fair share of areas which could be described as 'wastelands'.
and no, i do not prefer leigh or bately to anywhere. Im not even sure where these places are? are they beyond the black gates of Mordor?
spain has a high standard of living? since when? it certainly was not a shining beacon of social service, medical care and high wages when i lived there. wages have remained pretty much static for a decade whilst the cost of living continues to rise.'"
it's not me that included Spain in the list - apparently it was the result of an EEC report - personally I think Spain is a dump and can't stand the bits i've been to
I can however,being half french & half english,confirm that france does in fact have it's fair share of wastelands but the standard of medical care cannot be questioned - just look at the WHO site for the ratings of the french SS & healthcare system
I hail from a cultural desert they call norfolk where,according to reliable sources the main languages are now polish & serbo-croat.
Nothing to do with xenophobia mon ami - lighten up FFS
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