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| It's excellent that they are pushing on with this again. There's pros and cons of each city individually, . The Waikato has a good rectangular stadium in Hamilton (Wellington and Canterbury are cricket grounds), and a decent junior nursery. However, the Waikato is only a couple of hours from Auckland (130km south).
According to Kiwi poster Te Kaha on the LeagueUnlimited thread [url=http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showthread.php?t=345915NZ - The Forgotten Frontier?[/url, from post 63, his views were the following (I asked whether North Harbour or the Waikato would be an alternative to Wellington/Christchuch:
Te Kaha believed that North Harbour, and Auckland as a whole, is too apathetic towards sport for a second NRL franchise to survive. The Waikato was a possibility, it's easily accessible for the outlying districts, but in order for League to grow in NZ, it has to be either Wellington or Christchurch. A franchise will need the corporate support to survive, and it would need to do well straight away.
The issue of corporate support might rule out regions like the Waikato, Taranaki or Hawke's Bay. However, a major challenge for choosing Wellington is securing resource consent for staging matches at night. When the Cake Tin was built, neighbouring residents lobbied successfully for a provision that only a certain number of events be staged at night. The NZ All Blacks RU test team, Hurricanes Super Rugby franchise, Wellington Lions NPC province, and Wellington Phoenix soccer would have most slots sewn up.
OTOH a team based solely in Christchurch would find it very difficult to compete against the Crusaders and Canterbury Rugby, with all the success they've had. The Crusaders are arguably the Brisbane Broncos of Rugby.
One proposal has suggested the Southern Orcas share home games between Wellington and Christchurch. This could expand NRL to NZ's second and third most populous provincial regions. However, with the straight line distance between the two cities being 305km, and part of that being the 20km Cook Strait (of water). Drive or train is 5 hours, ferry is 3 hours, so 8 hours total. Flying is 45 minutes.
The clubs would effectively need to selling 6 game membership/ticket packages (or fractions of) in each region. Australian clubs sell 3 game mini membership packages, but for a new team, it could be a challenge.
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Quote ="The Observer"It's excellent that they are pushing on with this again. There's pros and cons of each city individually, . The Waikato has a good rectangular stadium in Hamilton (Wellington and Canterbury are cricket grounds), and a decent junior nursery. However, the Waikato is only a couple of hours from Auckland (130km south).
According to Kiwi poster Te Kaha on the LeagueUnlimited thread [url=http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showthread.php?t=345915NZ - The Forgotten Frontier?[/url, from post 63, his views were the following (I asked whether North Harbour or the Waikato would be an alternative to Wellington/Christchuch:
Te Kaha believed that North Harbour, and Auckland as a whole, is too apathetic towards sport for a second NRL franchise to survive. The Waikato was a possibility, it's easily accessible for the outlying districts, but in order for League to grow in NZ, it has to be either Wellington or Christchurch. A franchise will need the corporate support to survive, and it would need to do well straight away.
The issue of corporate support might rule out regions like the Waikato, Taranaki or Hawke's Bay. However, a major challenge for choosing Wellington is securing resource consent for staging matches at night. When the Cake Tin was built, neighbouring residents lobbied successfully for a provision that only a certain number of events be staged at night. The NZ All Blacks RU test team, Hurricanes Super Rugby franchise, Wellington Lions NPC province, and Wellington Phoenix soccer would have most slots sewn up.
OTOH a team based solely in Christchurch would find it very difficult to compete against the Crusaders and Canterbury Rugby, with all the success they've had. The Crusaders are arguably the Brisbane Broncos of Rugby.
One proposal has suggested the Southern Orcas share home games between Wellington and Christchurch. This could expand NRL to NZ's second and third most populous provincial regions. However, with the straight line distance between the two cities being 305km, and part of that being the 20km Cook Strait (of water). Drive or train is 5 hours, ferry is 3 hours, so 8 hours total. Flying is 45 minutes.
The clubs would effectively need to selling 6 game membership/ticket packages (or fractions of) in each region. Australian clubs sell 3 game mini membership packages, but for a new team, it could be a ">challenge.'"
where ever we put a 2nd side will work, even christchurch
crowds there have been very good for RL games the tigers have taken there.
and the warriors have no problems getting good crowds against the auckland blues
competing with Super 15 isnt a problem for the nrl
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Quote ="The Observer"It's excellent that they are pushing on with this again. There's pros and cons of each city individually, . The Waikato has a good rectangular stadium in Hamilton (Wellington and Canterbury are cricket grounds), and a decent junior nursery. However, the Waikato is only a couple of hours from Auckland (130km south).
According to Kiwi poster Te Kaha on the LeagueUnlimited thread [url=http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showthread.php?t=345915NZ - The Forgotten Frontier?[/url, from post 63, his views were the following (I asked whether North Harbour or the Waikato would be an alternative to Wellington/Christchuch:
Te Kaha believed that North Harbour, and Auckland as a whole, is too apathetic towards sport for a second NRL franchise to survive. The Waikato was a possibility, it's easily accessible for the outlying districts, but in order for League to grow in NZ, it has to be either Wellington or Christchurch. A franchise will need the corporate support to survive, and it would need to do well straight away.
The issue of corporate support might rule out regions like the Waikato, Taranaki or Hawke's Bay. However, a major challenge for choosing Wellington is securing resource consent for staging matches at night. When the Cake Tin was built, neighbouring residents lobbied successfully for a provision that only a certain number of events be staged at night. The NZ All Blacks RU test team, Hurricanes Super Rugby franchise, Wellington Lions NPC province, and Wellington Phoenix soccer would have most slots sewn up.
OTOH a team based solely in Christchurch would find it very difficult to compete against the Crusaders and Canterbury Rugby, with all the success they've had. The Crusaders are arguably the Brisbane Broncos of Rugby.
One proposal has suggested the Southern Orcas share home games between Wellington and Christchurch. This could expand NRL to NZ's second and third most populous provincial regions. However, with the straight line distance between the two cities being 305km, and part of that being the 20km Cook Strait (of water). Drive or train is 5 hours, ferry is 3 hours, so 8 hours total. Flying is 45 minutes.
The clubs would effectively need to selling 6 game membership/ticket packages (or fractions of) in each region. Australian clubs sell 3 game mini membership packages, but for a new team, it could be a ">challenge.'"
where ever we put a 2nd side will work, even christchurch
crowds there have been very good for RL games the tigers have taken there.
and the warriors have no problems getting good crowds against the auckland blues
competing with Super 15 isnt a problem for the nrl
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Quote ="JB Down Under"have they? Since the Wellington bid failed last time around (and the muted idea of having it in SL was coshed) I haven't heard anything about a bid for a 2nd NZ team until ">this.'"
its the first its been mentioned
the southern orcas was the best idea, split games b/ween wellington and christchurch.
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Quote ="JB Down Under"have they? Since the Wellington bid failed last time around (and the muted idea of having it in SL was coshed) I haven't heard anything about a bid for a 2nd NZ team until ">this.'"
its the first its been mentioned
the southern orcas was the best idea, split games b/ween wellington and christchurch.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"for once we agree!'"
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Quote ="dally messenger"its the first its been mentioned IN THE PRESS
the southern orcas was the best idea, split games b/ween wellington and ">christchurch.'"
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Quote ="dally messenger"its the first its been mentioned IN THE PRESS
the southern orcas was the best idea, split games b/ween wellington and ">christchurch.'"
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